Heroes

[Hummingbird]

Last episode Sylar, in an attempt to steal an ability, killed a woman who was keeping him in an illusion while he was recovering from the surgeries she and the people she worked for had done to save Sylar after Hiro stabbed him at the last season's finale. Once Sylar got outside of the building he was in, he found himself in the middle of nowhere. I guess he walked until he passed out on the road where Maya and the others found him.

[Azraelsbane]

It was a good episode, though I was rather unhappy about the lack of Hiro face time. :cry:

[Hummingbird]

Me too! There should be lots of Hiro in every episode! :D Just drop Claire or Matt. Or Sylar. LOL

[Provrb1810meggy]

Is anyone else simultaneously creeped out and totally adoring West?

[Azraelsbane]

Me too! There should be lots of Hiro in every episode! :D Just drop Claire or Matt. Or Sylar. LOL

Oh no, they cannot drop Sylar. I'm very excited about him still being alive. He reminds me a lot of my antag. :)

[Sarita]

Is anyone else simultaneously creeped out and totally adoring West?Yes. It's just that his and Claire's story line is getting SO cheesy!

[Provrb1810meggy]

Ha ha. When he caught her after she jumped from the Hollywood sign. Cheese-fest, but hey, I can dig cheese every once and a while. Like, High School Musical. Cheese, but tasty cheese.

I think I'm still in Strawberry(my MC)'s voice.

[Hummingbird]

Okay, maybe not Sylar. ;)

West is creepy! He's probably brainwashed or something and working for the company. Or he's just that guy that the girl MC falls in love with, but everyone thinks is weird.

Cheese... yeah, there are some really tasty cheeses out there! High School Musical being on that list. ;) Yay.

[Pike]

All right, we're nearing the middle of the season's first story arc, and the mysterious Elle is coming on board. Everyone amped?

Pike

[Sage]

Yay, Kristen Bell! Although she is so typecast.

[childeroland]

Another solid episode, though a little less Hiro in Japan would be nice.

[ChaosTitan]

Good ep.

How cool was Parkman and Nathan's "fight scene?" :D

[Pike]

Beautifuil episode! A little chopy in places but damned fun. Really enjoyed Parkman's dad playing them for saps. "It starts with mind reading. Let me show you something." Creepy bastard. I hate it that I can't read Nathan. I can usually figure out where a character is coming from but he keeps me guessing every episode. It sounds like bitching on my part but in truth I love being surprised!

Great seeing Kristen Bell but her short screen time left me a little dry. Other then that, WOW!

Pike

[Azraelsbane]

Mohindir (sp?) is aggravating me. He finally proves himself useful and then promptly becomes an idiot. Parkman's father is teh evil. I like him more than Parkman (who my husband and I lovingly refer to as the chubby stupid one). I think I have a problem with Parkman because I have a MC who reads minds, and he's a genius. I expected a more well-rounded individual to have such a frickin' awesome power. ;)

[The_Grand_Duchess]

I :heart: chubby stupid men.

Yes Parkman's dad is the evil.

[ChaosTitan]

Wow.

I don't know why, but I totally wasn't expecting Adam's true identity. How cool!

[Sage]

Wow.

I don't know why, but I totally wasn't expecting Adam's true identity. How cool!
Really?

[totidem_verbis]

Wow.

I don't know why, but I totally wasn't expecting Adam's true identity. How cool!

I wasn't expecting it either.

At least it answers one of the questions about Claire...

[childeroland]

Great episode, but Mohinder is starting to get on my nerves. And God help him for screwing over HRG.

[TemlynWriting]

Wow.

I don't know why, but I totally wasn't expecting Adam's true identity. How cool!
I know! Totally out of left field! Hubby and I were dumbfounded. Looking forward to how this develops.

At least it answers one of the questions about Claire...
What question about Claire? I'm confused...

[Pike]

You're confused? I'm over here on the west coast with a half of an hour until the episode starts. Arrrgh! Now I have to wait and find out. crap. crap. crap. crap. crap. crap. crap. crap. crap. crap. crap. crap. crap. crap. crap. crap. crap. crap.

[The_Grand_Duchess]

Yeah I for whatever reasons wasn't expecting the whole Adam business. I suppose Claire will live forever then.

[ChaosTitan]

Really?

In my own defense, I was distracted during half of the episode. Wasn't looking for connections. :tongue

[The_Grand_Duchess]

I :heart: chubby stupid men.



I :heart: him so much more after that last episode.

[Pike]

That was a GREAT episode. Tied characters in, Hiro is finally home, no Wonder TWins to distract us, and the grand whammy at the end. I'm gonna be pacing in front of my TV set for the next week!

Pike

BTW - Parkman has been one of my favorites and continues to do so after last. Great stuff.

[Sarita]

When Kensei was introduced, I was sure he'd be a key character. His symbol is the symbol for the company/those with powers. His legend was SPECIFICALLY taught to Hiro by HIS FATHER, who was part of the conspiracy early on. Then, when they revealed that his power was healing/regeneration, I was really sure that we'd see him in the present.

This season is going to get SO interesting. I can't wait to see Hiro kick his ass for real. And for Peter to get a clue. Oh, and Peter being hosed off? Far too hot to be shown on TV, IMO.

[reenkam]

Am I the only one generally annoyed by this season? I don't like Hiro (it's his fault, imo), I don't like Claire's dad, I don't like Peter (he needs to get over himself, seriously), I'm not liking Nikki so much (she's always trying to save Micah, but she just makes stuff worse), I'm not really like Matt anymore (he's not being strong anymore), and the twins are just...ugh

Really, I think Claire needs to run away from her dad and do something important that isn't getting back at a cheerleader. I think Kristen Bell's character (I forget her name) should come back because she was actually interesting. And and...I don't know. I want something to actually HAPPEN at some point. The best part of this whole season has been finding out who Adam is. And that was what, 10 seconds?

*sigh*

[Pike]

All things considered, the writer's strike is going make Monday's suck. On the other hand, I read a blog/ blurb at EW from Tim Kring that said:

1) He knows that the love interest story lines from Hiro and Claire dragged down the season.

2) That they should have introduced the Virus Apocolpyse issue in the first episode rather than ep #7.

3) That introducing the newer characters on their own was a mistake.

And a few other things. Up until the strike, they retooled the scripts to go back to last season's torch style stories, wrapping them around several characters at once, moving up the stakes and such. That's why the last episode stood out so strongly.

Oh ya, he also admitted that Hiro spent way too much time in ancient Japan. It's so cool to hear that he and the writer's are aware of how the fans feel and love the show enough to alter it to taste but not so much that we dictate everything. If anything, season three will ROCK!

Pike

[WerenCole]

Does anybody else really want Takuso Kensei / Adam Monroe to actually be a good guy?

Though, after living through 400 years of human history with a broken heart to begin in and a bunch of abilities, it would be no wonder if he is just a real bad dude. Right?

[Mjollnir13]

Does anybody else really want Takuso Kensei / Adam Monroe to actually be a good guy?

Though, after living through 400 years of human history with a broken heart to begin in and a bunch of abilities, it would be no wonder if he is just a real bad dude. Right?

I hope he is bad only for the reason that they need more villains. They need villains that are independent from the company, or any branch of it. Really, they don't have much.

Sylar's story is going slow, and the company is a bit confusing because you really don't know who is good yet. There is Elle who rocks! I hope she breaks away from the company and goes on her own...maybe even teams with Sylar, but that would probably end in death of her and they need to keep her on...for my sake at least.

[Pike]

That's part of the reason love heroes, because you can never tell which end of the "moral compass" soeoneis on. I do hope that after 00 years Adam's thirst or vengence has grown out of control. I enjoyed how he wa so patient, I mean h's got nothng but time on his hands. A little like DC's Vandal Savage.

THings shuld be heating up for the last couple of episodes, an hopefully the WGA strike will button up in tme for some new material to kick into gear for the remainder of the season.

BTW - Elle is positively psycho!

Pike

[Sarita]

Does this mean that Peter and Hiro will fight? Opposite ends and all? Elle is crazy, but I can see why, cooped up in that nut house her whole life. And is Bob her dad?

I wonder what Adam will do when he finally sees Hiro? I mean, he probably doesn't know that he's alive in this present or this reality. And was Adam the one that killed Nakamura or was it Nikki/Jessica, Elle, or someone else entirely? Questions, questions, questions. I didn't like the DL twist, how he was living for a short time again. That seemed gratuitous to me, like a deliberate tug on our heart strings for Nikki. Gag me.

[childeroland]

Could it be possible Adam IS the Company and the whole interaction between him and Peter is some sort of setup? Wouldn't it be silly of the Company to put Adam, a charismatic known for bending others to do his will, in a cell next to a guy who can absorb others' abilities?

[rubarbb]

WerenCole;838098]Alright, I never watch television,





Never say never...

[Sarita]

Could it be possible Adam IS the Company and the whole interaction between him and Peter is some sort of setup? Wouldn't it be silly of the Company to put Adam, a charismatic known for bending others to do his will, in a cell next to a guy who can absorb others' abilities?
I thought Adam's power was healing, like Claire? Does he have other powers?

Isn't Angela Petrelli's power to influence/bend will? We saw it last season with convincing Nathan to listen to her about the election and the bomb. And then with Heidi about not telling the family secret.

[dragonjax]

I'm really disappointed by this entire season. I hope that after the strike, the writers regroup and capture what worked so well in season one. Kudos to them for trying something different, but now we're at a point where I really don't care about any of the characters.

[WerenCole]

Never say never...


Where was that post? Really though, I have two channels and watch one show. . . except for sports when they are on and I care to watch. My tv activity is low per the American norm.

[childeroland]

I don't mean as a superpower (which I do think is Angela Petrelli's thing) but in his natural ability to influence people -- Parkman's father, the original generation of Heroes (Linderman, etc.), whoever can control the weather in the way Bob showed Nathan in the newspaper article. The Company locked him up (supposedly) because he is such a danger, knowing his persuasive powers, and put him within speaking distance of Peter, arguably the most powerful of the Heroes.

On a side note, they gotta stop with the Wonder Twins. Worst. Storyline. Ever.

I thought Adam's power was healing, like Claire? Does he have other powers?

Isn't Angela Petrelli's power to influence/bend will? We saw it last season with convincing Nathan to listen to her about the election and the bomb. And then with Heidi about not telling the family secret.

[Pike]

And how come Nathan's wife is walking? I know that being in contact with Linderman might have had an effect (healing her injury) but they jumped from her toe twitching last season to full-blown walking this season I'd like to have seen the progression.

Pike

[childeroland]

When Linderman healed her she was fully able to walk. She just hid that fact awhile to avoid uncomfortable questions during Nathan's campaign.

And how come Nathan's wife is walking? I know that being in contact with Linderman might have had an effect (healing her injury) but they jumped from her toe twitching last season to full-blown walking this season I'd like to have seen the progression.

Pike

[childeroland]

Great episode.

Elle, Parkman, and the Magnificent HRG kicked butt. West was not too shabby.

Angela needs to be in every episode of Heroes. Ever.

No twins or New Orleans. Yay.

Mohinder needs to %*^& off and die.

[TemlynWriting]

Great episode.
Mohinder needs to %*^& off and die.
The exact words out of my mouth regarding Mohinder: What an idiot!

[Mjollnir13]

Great episode.

Elle, Parkman, and the Magnificent HRG kicked butt. West was not too shabby.

Angela needs to be in every episode of Heroes. Ever.

No twins or New Orleans. Yay.

Mohinder needs to %*^& off and die.


I liked it too, but was a little disappointed at the ending when... ***SPOILER (incase you haven't seen it yet)**** Noah survived. I really wished he would have died, and not because I don't like him...I do, but more because I think it would have helped the show.

Too many shows are afraid to kill off main characters. I enjoy shows that take a chance and kill some of them off once in a while, and not just because the actor is leaving the show.

BTW....Elle totally rocks!! It looks like she turns kinda good.

[Pike]

If Noah died it would have had intense ripples throughout the show. That makes for fun TV, but I saw his resurrection coming. I did like how it mirrored Claire's first second coming frmo last season (Holy S---).

I think Mohinder's problem is that he is so over his had in ammoral metas and norms that he can't figure out where to stand.

But I agree that this was one hell of an episode. The Matt/ Angela battle, HRG going off on his Dirty Harry rampage, poor Hiro seeing the face of his father's killer; it all worked for me!

Pike

[childeroland]

BTW....Elle totally rocks!! It looks like she turns kinda good.

I wonder if Elle will tell Claire her father's alive.

[Mjollnir13]

I wonder if Elle will tell Claire her father's alive.

Oooooo, never thought of that! That is a good guess.

[childeroland]

Up until Mohinder shooting HRG through the eye I sort of suspected Mohinder's (latest) turn was a ploy to help HRG infiltrate the Company.

I wonder where Claire gets the ashes she spreads for her father during next episode's preview.

The exact words out of my mouth regarding Mohinder: What an idiot!

[WriterGirl2007]

AWESOME episode!!! I loved it. Even the twist at the end. :)

OK, I heard there was a chance that if the strike didn't end soon, Heroes would finish up the season early. Does anyone know that when the previews talk about two episodes left (or whatever the # is), if they mean until it starts back up in the spring, or for the entire season?


On a side note, they gotta stop with the Wonder Twins. Worst. Storyline. Ever.

So true. And something about Sylar with the Twinette grosses me out. And not in the "Sylar is evil, that is so wrong, he's tricking her" way. But in an "ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww" type of way. Yuck.

[Arisa81]

Well, they only have 2 more episodes taped. So I guess once the strike is over they'll be right back at taping.

[dragonjax]

Man, this show is REALLY making me grit my teeth.

Yay, evil Sylar is back!

Boo, Mohinder has officially become Too Stupid To Live!

Yay, Claire gets her rage on!

Boo, Monica has officially become Too Stupid To Live!

Yay, Adam is evil!

Boo, Peter is in lurve and is all angsty!



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Yay, one Wonder Twin took the form of a corpse!

Boo, one episode left to tie everything up!

Yay, Hiro embraces his inner samurai!

Boo, Niki has been Too Stupid To Live all season!

Yay, TWO "HEROES" WILL BITE THE BIG ONE IN THE LAST EPISODE!

[Hummingbird]

I liked how eloquently you put it. LOL!!!

I really hope Claire starts kicking butt now. Cheerleaders can pack a punch. :D

[truelyana]

We've got two episodes left to watch, as we are still in the first series of heroes in the UK. Interesting series.

[Pike]

Thanks Jax for putting it down nicely. I keep telling myself that we have to remember the characters aren't up to date on all the inner dealings like we are, but COME ON!!!

Shouldn't Peter be reaching into Adam's mind for the truth? If I was skipping around with some dude that swore this virus was the death of us all, I'd be poking my mind into everyone elses, his first, for fear of missing something and being the dork that causes the cataclyism. Call me paranoid but with that many lives at stake...

Pike

[dragonjax]

[SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO ARE STILL WATCHING SEASON 1 IN THE UK]

I think the big problem here (with season two) is that the creators first threw the net wide and had sprawling, character-oriented episodes...and then, with the writer strike looming, they pulled the net back quickly and decided to wrap up the entire season before the strike took it off the air. So we went from a slow, rambling opener to a summary-over-quality close for the season.

While I applaud Kring & Co. for trying to deliver closure in such a short time frame, the execution (in my opinion) was sloppy and uneven. Way too much time was spent getting Claire a "hero" boyfriend and keeping Hiro in ancient Japan. Absolutely not enough time was spent developing the previous generation of heroes before Adam started getting kill-happy.

The superdevelopment of the heroes' powers is way too convenient. Matt can suddenly send compelling thoughts as well as receive specific thoughts -- he had to work damn hard to receive only the thoughts he was looking for, but boom, he can send a command with pinpoint accuracy? Too easy. (And look, now he's Walking The Path of Potential Evil, like his dad, oh goody.) Claire's blood regenerates normal people, so that her blood brings them back from the dead? Are you joking? So now death isn't final, and there's nothing at stake. Oh, and her blood also will cure all heroes from the evil virus thing (and lord, do I hate that plot, but whatever), so whee, Claire's blood cures everyone, hero and normal alike. Don't even get me started about Maya being able to stop killing Sylar once, so now she's convinced she can do it all the time.

And stop me if I'm wrong, but I think there's serious timing/plot inconsistencies. Adam killed Hiro's dad and also tried to kill Angela when Peter was stuck in Ireland. Dandy. So when did Peter and Adam agree that they had to go to Toronto? I don't recall that ever coming up before the Haitian wiped Peter's memory and locked him up to be sent to Cork. (And hey, what happened to the actual shipment of stolen goods that the Irish dudes were trying to steal in the first place? Did the Haitian take them to trade them for cash?) And once Peter and Adam hooked up and they approached the last remaining previous generation hero/scientist gal, all Peter got was "Texas" and boom, that was enough for Adam to know the virus was kept in the Company's HQ in Odessa? Seriously?

And how did a convalescing Sylar get from the middle of nowhere to the town where the Wondertwins were on the run? Who was Rachel (the illusionist) talking to on the phone -- that is, who was her boss, who wanted to keep Sylar alive? Why would anyone want Sylar alive?

And what IS Sylar's power exactly? How is he able to absorb people's powers by scalping them? He's a clocksmith -- I got that. He sees how things work. But actually talking to machines is Micah's power. Sylar doesn't do that. He killed the telekinetic back before all of this began, and somehow absorbed the dead man's power. HOW? What is Sylar's power? I assume the "Why isn't Sylar's power working" question will be answered before the season ends; I also assume whoever saved him neutered him somehow, a la the chip in Spike's brain back on Buffy Seasons 4 - 6.

All right. Rant done.

[ChaosTitan]

[SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO ARE STILL WATCHING SEASON 1 IN THE UK]

So when did Peter and Adam agree that they had to go to Toronto? I don't recall that ever coming up before the Haitian wiped Peter's memory and locked him up to be sent to Cork.

I don't recall the exact timing, but Adam told Peter to meet him in Toronto (Montreal, I thought?) during their escape from the facility. Right around the time they split up.

[dragonjax]

I don't recall the exact timing, but Adam told Peter to meet him in Toronto (Montreal, I thought?) during their escape from the facility. Right around the time they split up.

Okay, gotcha. So when did Peter get the airline ticket? Did Adam give it to him? (Sigh. I need a TiVo...)

[NikeeGoddess]

honestly, i can't wait until it's over. i'm so glad they didn't feel compelled to drag it on for another season (like they've done w/Lost but that's a diff story).

we should have a quick lottery game where see who can pick the two heroes who go down in the end.

go here: http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1850445#post1850445
to make your vote

[ChaosTitan]

Okay, gotcha. So when did Peter get the airline ticket? Did Adam give it to him? (Sigh. I need a TiVo...)

Hmm...excellent question....

Continuity flub? :D

honestly, i can't wait until it's over. i'm so glad they didn't feel compelled to drag it on for another season (like they've done w/Lost but that's a diff story).

Drag what on? They won't possibly be able to wrap up the storylines in one episode (especially one cobbled together because of the writer's strike). I'm sure we'll be seeing things continued whenever the show returns.

[Serenity]

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Okay, gotcha. So when did Peter get the airline ticket? Did Adam give it to him? (Sigh. I need a TiVo...)

Hmm...excellent question....

Continuity flub? :D

okay. Hopefully I'm not reading into this too much, because it depends upon 'when' you're talking about. They jumped around so much this season that it's made my head spin sometimes. As I saw it, Peter escaped with Adam, and Adam told him to meet in Toronto. Then Peter got chased and zapped by the Hatian and sent to Ireland. He woke up, no memory. Then he (I can't remember how, exactly) figured out/remembered about something to do with the place in Toronto. He and the Irish chick went there. He was looking around when he transported them both into the future and left her there when he transported himself back to the past-- to the place in Toronto where Adam then showed up.

If all of that is wrong (hey, I know my mind and it remembers things wrong on occasion-- okay, LOTS of occasions-- but still, it happens :D) then disregard and go about your business. But that's how I saw it all happening.

[dragonjax]

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As I saw it, Peter escaped with Adam, and Adam told him to meet in Toronto. Then Peter got chased and zapped by the Hatian and sent to Ireland. He woke up, no memory. Then he (I can't remember how, exactly) figured out/remembered about something to do with the place in Toronto.

Problem is, in the box with all of Peter's belongings (which, um, if the Haitian had been serious about wiping Peter's memory, why did he leave that stuff around? Huh? hah? huh?), there is one (or possibly two; I don't remember) airline ticket(s) to Toronto. When did Peter get the ticket(s)?

[Pike]

I read that there were a number of re-writes as they shot these episodes because of the "then" impending strike, so they might have cut a few corners. As for the Haitian wiping his mind and leaving his stuff? I figured it was only a temporary thing, to keep Peter out of Adam's grasp until things could be fixed. The Haitian always seems to operating on his own agenda, the closest i can tell to the greater good. He tends to float through the differetn parties, making up for others' mistakes.

My biggest beef was that most of the characters seemed damned intelligent last season. This year, its hit and miss. Again, this may be due in part to the strike screwing up plans and scripts, like maybe they (the writers) didn't have their hearts into it this year. Lucky us.

Serenity, you got your info down on the sequence. As to how Peter figured out Toronto, he had an Isaac Mendez moment and painted the scene before traveling there.

Pike

[Serenity]

Serenity, you got your info down on the sequence. As to how Peter figured out Toronto, he had an Isaac Mendez moment and painted the scene before traveling there.


Oooo... I forgot about that!

[ChaosTitan]

I'm such a dork. I forgot I had it on tape. :poke:


Right after they healed Nathan, Adam handed Peter a passport and plane ticket (which I assume he got before they went to the hospital). Elle and the Haitian track them by the side exit. Adam says to meet him in MONTREAL, yadda yadda, and then they split.

Re: the Haitian. He told Peter he was helping him because Mrs. Petrelli once helped him. "You deserve a better fate, my friend." But yeah, not taking away the ticket and photo was kinda dumb.

[Serenity]

I'm such a dork. I forgot I had it on tape. :poke:


Right after they healed Nathan, Adam handed Peter a passport and plane ticket (which I assume he got before they went to the hospital). Elle and the Haitian track them by the side exit. Adam says to meet him in MONTREAL, yadda yadda, and then they split.

Re: the Haitian. He told Peter he was helping him because Mrs. Petrelli once helped him. "You deserve a better fate, my friend." But yeah, not taking away the ticket and photo was kinda dumb.

Yeah, forgot about that part too. :tongue Kel? I think I need some Ginko for Christmas this year...

[Pike]

That makes two of us, but DVD's make up for it in spades! Thanks CT.

Pike

[dragonjax]

Ditto the thanks!

(Montreal, Toronto...oopsie. My bad!)

[Sarita]

Claire's blood regenerates normal people, so that her blood brings them back from the dead? Are you joking? So now death isn't final, and there's nothing at stake.I've been wondering the entire series whether or not Noah has a power... Seems he doesn't, but how many "non" heroes are actually working with the company? Mohinder? There's something with him too, aside from the healing blood. Anyone else?

And once Peter and Adam hooked up and they approached the last remaining previous generation hero/scientist gal, all Peter got was "Texas" and boom, that was enough for Adam to know the virus was kept in the Company's HQ in Odessa? Seriously?I just watched it. I'm pretty sure he heard "Texas," "Odessa," "Warehouse."

Who was Rachel (the illusionist) talking to on the phone -- that is, who was her boss, who wanted to keep Sylar alive? Why would anyone want Sylar alive?Adam?

And what IS Sylar's power exactly? How is he able to absorb people's powers by scalping them? He doesn't have one, does he? Wasn't that the whole reason behind his meltdown in S1?

honestly, i can't wait until it's over. i'm so glad they didn't feel compelled to drag it on for another season (like they've done w/Lost but that's a diff story).Wait, what? Is the SERIES over? I swore they said SEASON finale... Aren't they doing the whole "Create the newest Hero for next season" thing?

[WerenCole]

You called Mohinder a "non-hero." I would beg to differ. . . anybody who can shoot Noah in the face is a hero in my book.


Tonight. The end. Who will die, who will live. Who will be caught and who will. . .not? (Love quoting Resevoir Dogs. . . aye?)


They admitted they made a couple of tacticul blunders this season. The virus concept should have been introduced earlier etc. Oh well. Still good television. I don't watch anything else, not that I really have a choice in my programming. NBC or CBS or. . . read. In that there is still not much of a choice. . . I graduate on Saturday and reading is required in this whole college thing. Yeah. So, Heroes it Is.

[Sarita]

You called Mohinder a "non-hero." I would beg to differ. . . anybody who can shoot Noah in the face is a hero in my book.I'm pretty sure Mohinder has some sort of power, I just don't know what it is yet. As for shooting HRG? He's my favorite, so that doesn't score any points in my book. It's possible that HRG, the Hatian, and Adam are the only ones who actually know what's going on.

[andrewhollinger]

Does anyone think that we're going to lose 2 heroes in the same way we "lost" Sylar and HRG?

They'll be back in the second half of the season?

[dragonjax]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for death by way of Highlander: decapitation. I think that even in Claire's and Adam's cases, that would be pretty damn permanent.

:popcorn:

[Pike]

They've already killed several characters in the good old permanent way: Isaac, Linderman, Ms. Devereau (sorry, can't remember her first name). So I'm guessing that these will be permanent as well. Now, did any of us get them right? Bwahahahahahaha!!!

Pike

[Sage]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for death by way of Highlander: decapitation. I think that even in Claire's and Adam's cases, that would be pretty damn permanent.

:popcorn:
Adam told us as much last week. That there was no coming back from your head being taken off. A convenient hint to us

[dragonjax]

Series...not...working!

Must...warn...others...!

[childeroland]

They killed Nathan and kept Maya. Jeebus.

Since Nathan isn't shot in the head, maybe the Company will revive him? *hope*

That idiotic subplot concerning Micah's stolen backpack seemed like a very long setup just to kill Nikki, didn't it?

So that was Maya's purpose? To give Mohinder someone to test the Claire's blood on before injecting Sylar with it? Did she serve any other purpose?

Like Elle's little moment though, when Mohinder complimented her for chasing Sylar from his lab.

[andrewhollinger]

did you SEE that?!

[Pike]

NO! It hasn't played yet here on the west coast. I gotta stay off the boards until i see the show.

Pike

[Sage]

The one point that made the entire episode worthwhile: The look on Sylar's face right before he shot Maya.

I mean, I'm not a big Sylar fan, but he gained a lot more points there.

[reenkam]

I don't get why Maya didn't just kill Sylar with her power sometime. I mean, she knows how to reverse it, doesn't she? I bet she could focus it if she weren't so busy being surprised by everything all the time.

And is anyone else finding Peter kind of annoying now? He's just...I don't know. I'm over him.

I really, really like Elle, though. But I think she needs to pump up her power. I mean, she was kind of amazing when she first came in. Now she's cooled down.

[Hummingbird]

Peter has been annoying lately. It reminds me of "Oh, poor me. Help. I've fallen and I can't get up." I really hope next season they'll fix that.

Hiro and Peter were my favorites last season, but now it's Hiro, Claire, and Elle. Noah and West are cool too.

Drat, why did Morhinder have help Maya? ;) I think they could've thought of something more interesting for her from the start. ^^

[andrewhollinger]

Drat, why did Morhinder have help Maya? ;) I think they could've thought of something more interesting for her from the start. ^^

Yeah, when you're cool power is the ability to kill, there isn't much story line for you. Bye bye Nicki. Maya's story for next half could be learning the restraint to focus on one person. That would be nifty. Could a Maya kill undo Adam?

And Adam is stuck, immortal, able to die if his head is removed; but, can he starve to death? I'm guessing we'll see more of him. And perhaps Sylar and Adam together? Don't know if their egos could handle it, having a partner.

The story is just going to get more complicated. Now Peter and Matt have vendettas (probably against HRG, right?). The company is back in control. The cheerleader is getting all teenager angsty.

I have to agree with many of you--Hiro is my favorite character. I was worried they were going to do him off. (Like Edward on 24--who saw that coming?) I think he completely embodies what a "hero" should be: motivated to do good, even if it's hard, guilty, torn between right and wrong, truth and half-truth, and (most of all) completely dedicated to his new role.

Too long, I'm sorry. ;)

[Joe270]

Nathan isn't dead, folks. He's got Kensai's blood.

Two died, one was resurrected. There's your two. Nathan's gonna be just fine.

[dragonjax]

Oh Lord. I hope not. I hope Nathan's gone, baby, gone. Because if he's not, then short of decapitation, there's absolutely no risk anymore. And as much as I miss HIGHLANDER, if Hiro starts spouting "There can be only one -- yatta!" I'm outta here.

[Conman]

Can anyone tell me what happened at the very end of the finale? My DVR cut off right as Sylar injected himself with the cure. :(

[Pike]

He injected himself and got his powers back. They ended with him grabbing a can telekinetically.

I know lots of folks saw things differently, but in my opinion... OMFG! Let's recap some character interaction:

When maya finds out that Sylar killed her brother she does try to kill him but he shots her instead, and then says, "Now look what you made me do." That was a prime moment for me. Instead of her power welling, the others writhing in agony, he just caps her. Nicely down.

Hiro leaving Kensai in a coffin shows some serious (grim) growth for the young hero. He wanted to kill him. That would have been swift and merciful but instead left him to rot for an eternity. That's damned twisted.

Nathan's death sucked for me. I liked his character due to his moral ambiguity, but now he's become a wake up call for Peter. Everyone wishing that Pete would stop being so danmed wishy-washy got their prayers answered. I think we'll be seeing a Peter from "Five Years Gone".

And now with HRG forced to play Company Man he'll be more ruthless and desperate to protect his family. Wasn't he the one that shot Nathan?

This writer's strike better come to a close soon because I don't think I can wait until Sept. of next year for more Heroes.

Pike

[dragonjax]

While some of last night's scenes were excellently choreographed -- the climactic scene when we don't know if Peter's going to turn on Adam or not, specifically -- what was missing for me was the palpable tension that thrummed through all of season one.

[The_Grand_Duchess]

He injected himself and got his powers back. They ended with him grabbing a can telekinetically.

I know lots of folks saw things differently, but in my opinion... OMFG! Let's recap some character interaction:

When maya finds out that Sylar killed her brother she does try to kill him but he shots her instead, and then says, "Now look what you made me do." That was a prime moment for me. Instead of her power welling, the others writhing in agony, he just caps her. Nicely down.

Yes! He totally put her down. Like no questions asked! And she so does need to stop being so shocked by everything and learn to focus! She's just so scattered. Like if she could channel that rage and stop being such a victim all the time then she could be deadly.

Hiro leaving Kensai in a coffin shows some serious (grim) growth for the young hero. He wanted to kill him. That would have been swift and merciful but instead left him to rot for an eternity. That's damned twisted.

It really was. I didn't know what he was going to do. I wasn't expecting that though.

Nathan's death sucked for me. I liked his character due to his moral ambiguity, but now he's become a wake up call for Peter. Everyone wishing that Pete would stop being so danmed wishy-washy got their prayers answered. I think we'll be seeing a Peter from "Five Years Gone".

I am upset about Nathan dying. I adored him. Perhaps he'll be coming back. Even with a head shot you can get up from that if you have Claire's blood. . . and they remove the bullet from your brain.

And Peter was pissing me off this whole time! Dude! You read minds! Adam shouldn't have been able to pull that one on you!

And now with HRG forced to play Company Man he'll be more ruthless and desperate to protect his family. Wasn't he the one that shot Nathan?

Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. I know that I love him! He's a beast and I"m happy to see that we'll be getting more of his crazy beastness! Although now I hate Mohinder becuase I would have beat Sylar's ass. Also I would have taken his ass right to the company. Like you wanna live? These are the guys with the blood. Threaten me all you want, they're coming in with a task force.

Also, they left Molly with a sitter for like, days?

This writer's strike better come to a close soon because I don't think I can wait until Sept. of next year for more Heroes.

Pike

It did seem like they kind of just forced everything to fall together this season and things were rushed and not taken as far as they could have been. Hopefully they're back on track soon.

[WerenCole]

When maya finds out that Sylar killed her brother she does try to kill him but he shots her instead, and then says, "Now look what you made me do." That was a prime moment for me. Instead of her power welling, the others writhing in agony, he just caps her. Nicely down.




Perfect. No hesitation, just turns and shoots. That was the best moment of the episode for me.

[reenkam]

Yes! He totally put her down. Like no questions asked! And she so does need to stop being so shocked by everything and learn to focus! She's just so scattered. Like if she could channel that rage and stop being such a victim all the time then she could be deadly.

You're SO right about this. I said the same thing to my friend. Everytime something happened before she'd say "ALEJANDRO!" then it became "GABRIEL!" It's like, get over it. Stuff's happening, just do what you have to do, Maya.

I'm happy they didn't kill her off though...I think Dania Ramirez is a good actress and they should utilise her some more.

[Pike]

It did seem like they kind of just forced everything to fall together this season and things were rushed and not taken as far as they could have been. Hopefully they're back on track soon.


I figure that was the writing team scrambling to finish out the season due to the damned strike! It did crash together too quickly. The bits with Monica never panned out but instead felt like tidbits from an old serial. And losing Nikki didn't make me happy. I loved her tortured character. I'm at a loss. Funny, this reminds me of Babylon 5, when they thought the show was over before the end of the season so they wrapped up their story line early. Then they got the green light to finish the season and had to come up with something. It wasn't all that fun tio watch.

I'm going to miss Nathan. I've always liked Adrian as an actor. He brings so much to the screen that there's going to be a vacuum with him gone. The scenes with him and Matt felt so good and natural; Adrian and Greg made their characters feel real. Now we'll have to wait ages to see what else is in store.

And I would have beat Sylar, too! Say Duchess, next time I'll hold him down and you can give him a few whacks.

Pike

[truelyana]

I'll be watching the last ever part of the first series tomorrow, it's a double episode too. So that, should be interesting.

[dragonjax]

"How to Stop An Exploding Man" was AWESOME. Hope you enjoy it!

[dragonjax]

I just blogged (http://jackiekessler.livejournal.com/3326.html) about the things I want to see in Season Three. :)

[katiemac]

Good lord. Now that it's over, I just felt this whole volume was a giant waste of time, unfortunately. And I don't think the writer's strike can be blamed, they were off track from the beginning. They could have had a really nice twist with Adam (plus David Anders is just cool), but they squandered that too.

Disappointed they killed Nathan, more disappointed they didn't use the death on someone like Maya. I like Ali Larter, but never cared for her character -- and now that she's gone, hopefully they'll use it as an excuse to dump the New Orleans storyline completely.

Not sure if I'll be back for a third season. How many episodes was this, anyway?

[Sage]

Because we predicted Kensei being the killer a month before he was revealed as Adam, my roomie and I were less than excited by that twist. When Hiro revealed that Adam had killed his dad, was it supposed to be a surprise to us that it was him? But my roomie thought for one second that maybe they'd throw a real twist in and we'd find out that it was Peter, having been manipulated by Adam somehow. That would have been much cooler (though sadder 'cuz I like Peter).

[Pike]

After reading some blogs from Greg Beeman and Tim Kring I don't feel as cheated. They were trying something a little different and after our fussing and their realization that it wasn't working, started to make changes. That cuased some problems with the writing only to be compounded by the strike. When they return for the next arc/ season, we should see a return to the first season, full of intrigue and less whiny, angst-ridden, foot dragging, dumb ass character stuff.

Now I have to go and read Jax's blog.

Pike

[Pike]

Okay... ouch!

Jax, you've got some serious points. All of which would sum up if the writers wrote their characters with more then half of a brain.

I didn't even think about why Peter didn't phase them through the safe, other then he used that power before DL died but now that he's gone Peter couldn't tap into that power? I don't know the parameters of his gift but that could be the reason.

Personally, I loved Nikki. She's the Jeckyl and Hyde, the Dr. Banner and Incredible Hulk - one normal, loving person who can't stop a whirlwind of bloody violence. I think it was the poker game where she mutilated a room full of guys with guns that sent some serious shivers down my spine. Nikki is probably gone (but wheres the body) so we'll see.

I still have hopes that with Hiro dumping Kensai and Peter losing Nathan that they'll go on the offensive and start kicking some ass. We saw them as a team last season as their future selves took on an army of Company goons so this will be a warm welcome.

Nice blog. I feel you mirror our hopes for a return to Heroes!

Pike

[Pike]

Not sure if I'll be back for a third season. How many episodes was this, anyway?

Only twelve. But I'd say give them a chance. I'm betting we'll be surprised and wow'd.

Pike

[katiemac]

Because we predicted Kensei being the killer a month before he was revealed as Adam, my roomie and I were less than excited by that twist. When Hiro revealed that Adam had killed his dad, was it supposed to be a surprise to us that it was him? But my roomie thought for one second that maybe they'd throw a real twist in and we'd find out that it was Peter, having been manipulated by Adam somehow. That would have been much cooler (though sadder 'cuz I like Peter).

I figured that twist, too. Also that Adam was Kensei all along. I thought they could have utilized the story better, though, with Hiro and Adam, especially since we spent so long on Japan setting it up. I sort of forgave them for loitering there since they could use it to set up a really dynamic present-day storyline but that fell to pieces too. I'll take a peek into volume three if David Anders returns.

[ChaosTitan]

According to the Ask Ausiello column over on TVGuide.com....


SPOILERS for Next Season:


Concerning the deaths of Nikki and Nathan, one is not dead. Just don't know which one, but I like Joe270's comment. Nathan has Adam's blood in him now, so my money's on him returning.

;)

[dragonjax]

That's where my money is too. Which sort of annoys me. I don't know how to do the invisible-unless-highlighted font, so I won't comment any further. :Shrug:

[katiemac]

I thought the same, Chaos. And dragonjax, you can just change the color of the text to white.

[truelyana]

Just finished watching the last two episodes of series 1, it was okay. I'm not a major fan of this show, but some of what it is portraying symbolizes why we are here on earth, and that's why I like watching it.

[ChaosTitan]

As for the mysterious, dark-coated figure we saw walking away from Nathan's shooting, did anyone else think he walked an awful lot like Peter? Future Peter, perhaps, coming back to right a wrong and stop yet another bungled future?

More stuff to ponder....

[childeroland]

It'd better be Nathan who survived.

I think HRG was the shooter, but a twist with Peter coming back to do in his brother would certainly be fun.

As for the mysterious, dark-coated figure we saw walking away from Nathan's shooting, did anyone else think he walked an awful lot like Peter? Future Peter, perhaps, coming back to right a wrong and stop yet another bungled future?

More stuff to ponder....

[dragonjax]

And dragonjax, you can just change the color of the text to white.


:rolleyes:

D'oh! Thanks!

[The_Grand_Duchess]

And I would have beat Sylar, too! Say Duchess, next time I'll hold him down and you can give him a few whacks.

Pike

I'm just saying. I mean huge red flag when he called and Molly was still alive. Sylar with powers would have killed the hell out of her, taken her powers and then found me himself. Then when I showed up and he didn't kill me as soon as I walked in I would have beat the crap out of him! He wouldn't have had time to pull the gun. He would have been messed up.

And that's why I kind of hate Mohinder. Shotting Bennet and not handing out a beatdown when it was necessary. That's not gangsta.

[Pike]

I can see him being shocked at Sylar being alive, but i agree. This is the man that killed Mo's dad. If I were him, there would have been a bloody beating. A good pistol whipping followed by that tense moment were the muzzle is digging a hole in Sy's temple before maya lets out her power. I suppoes someone will say that Mo is a man of science and of a religion that doesn't believe in such violence, but he's been through enough that he'd likely want a pound of flesh for Sy's evils.

Pike

[Sarita]

As for the mysterious, dark-coated figure we saw walking away from Nathan's shooting, did anyone else think he walked an awful lot like Peter? Future Peter, perhaps, coming back to right a wrong and stop yet another bungled future?GAK! I thought that too, followed by: The show hasn't been smart enough to pull that sort of thing off, so it was probably HRG...

And Mohinder? I lost a lot of respect for his character in that final episode. He really needed to step up.

[andrewhollinger]

Does anyone know when HEROES will be airing the next half of the season (in the states)?

nbc.com doesn't mention it.

Anybody know?

[childeroland]

They ran out of episodes because of the strike and have to finish new scripts after it's over.

Does anyone know when HEROES will be airing the next half of the season (in the states)?

nbc.com doesn't mention it.

Anybody know?

[Pike]

My Mondays have spun into utter oblivion!!!!

Come back, Heroes!

Pike

[andrewhollinger]

OH...

I thought they had scripts for the rest of the season and they were just taking a Christmas break like some of the other shows...

Thanks.