PAMB and its quotes

zizban · Mar 8, 2007

You know, I'm surprised pA doesn't make their message board private, like my publisher, Chippewa, does. It would keep us peeping toms away.

VGrossack · Mar 8, 2007

zizban said:
You know, I'm surprised pA doesn't make their message board private, like my publisher, Chippewa, does. It would keep us peeping toms away.

I believe there is a section which is private. The public section may have been kept open to lure in more happy authors.

stormie · Mar 8, 2007

VGrossack said:
I believe there is a section which is private. The public section may have been kept open to lure in more happy authors.

Of course. Because the public forum is heavily monitored, lest anyone post a negative against PA. Makes Publish America look so wonderful and happy and Stepford-like.

Ken Schneider · Mar 8, 2007

They edit and ban on the private board, too.

The private board is mostly for the peeps to cuss and talk dirty. Plus many of the old timers can say stuff about us, and think we won't find out.

PA monitors the private board just as close as the public.
they can't have the knowing poisoning the greenies.

zizban · Mar 8, 2007

Do we have access to the private board?

DaveKuzminski · Mar 8, 2007

Some of us do.

CatSlave · Mar 8, 2007

DaveKuzminski said:
Some of us do.

Perhaps if *one* of you would create a new online identity here, you could share with your AW brethren and sistren, eh?

DaveKuzminski · Mar 8, 2007

Doing so would let PA know what messages from there are being seen and help them eliminate others as suspects. Sometimes it's better not to spill what's known, especially in a public forum like this, to keep them guessing who's responsible so they can't cut us off.

ResearchGuy · Mar 8, 2007

CatSlave said:
Perhaps if *one* of you would create a new online identity here, you could share with your AW brethren and sistren, eh?

That would at least border on fraud.

What folks say to each other in what they reasonably believe to be confidence is their business. The public boards provide plenty of fodder for discussion and are fair game for analysis.

IMHO FWIW YMMV.

--Ken

zizban · Mar 8, 2007

Well, at least someone can peek in and see if there was dirt to be had. I imagine the private forums are just as idiotic as the public ones.

DaveKuzminski · Mar 8, 2007

They are.

CatSlave · Mar 8, 2007

ResearchGuy said:
That would at least border on fraud.

What folks say to each other in what they reasonably believe to be confidence is their business. The public boards provide plenty of fodder for discussion and are fair game for analysis.

IMHO FWIW YMMV.

--Ken

I meant in a general way, not cutting and pasting quotes verbatim. However, if that is unethical then I retract my request.
But I'm still curious.

allenparker · Mar 8, 2007

don't get it

I am the author of XXXXXXXX. I have been watching my book since March of 06.

Did anyone look at his Amazon and BN rankings? Is it me or is there something wrong here?

just a question from the palatial futon...

James D. Macdonald · Mar 8, 2007

PA does make half of its messageboard private. But the public board (showing all the Happy Happy Authors) is a big part of the selling of PA to newbies.

This joke is relevant: http://www.ahajokes.com/hea26.html

JimmyD1318 · Mar 8, 2007

James D. Macdonald said:
PA does make half of its messageboard private. But the public board (showing all the Happy Happy Authors) is a big part of the selling of PA to newbies.

This joke is relevant: http://www.ahajokes.com/hea26.html

Thanks Uncle Jim! That joke made my day!

James D. Macdonald · Mar 8, 2007

allenparker said:
Did anyone look at his Amazon and BN rankings? Is it me or is there something wrong here?

Oftentimes you'll find that some book at some on-line site is the #1 seller in some small subdivision of books in general: the #1 mystery from PA in Paducah or some such.

Other places, it may actually be the #1 seller, but recall that on-line sales account for a small fraction of all book sales.

My book is being carried by everybody, Borders, target, cover to cover, valore books, forbes, chapters and a lot of independent stores, every amazon in united states and canada and europe, even lightening source publishing advertises my book, I don't even know who they are and I am sure I don't have a contract with them.

Lightning Source is the company that actually prints your book. PA has a contract with them.

Let's see:

Borders
target
cover to cover
valore books
forbes
chapters
amazon in united states
and canada
and eu ro pe

All meaningless. Any book with an ISBN is listed in exactly the same places.

James D. Macdonald · Mar 8, 2007

Oh -- we have a long-standing policy here at AW of not reposting anything from the PA private messageboard.

Ken Schneider · Mar 9, 2007

We have spies and eyes everywhere.

Miranda, one of your roof shingles blew off last night.

Just thought you'd like to know.

zizban · Mar 9, 2007

James D. Macdonald said:
Oh -- we have a long-standing policy here at AW of not reposting anything from the PA private messageboard.

I wasn't asking anyone to do that...I was just curious if we did have someone looking at it.

You saw that shingle fly off, too? Damn thing almost hit me--err, my friend

CatSlave · Mar 9, 2007

http://bb.publishamerica.com/viewtopic.php?t=20059

I've been thinking. It hurt a bit but I continued and here are my thoughts:
1. If PA gets printing facility up and running then their cost for printing books should go down.
2. Editing and submission requirements should get more rigid.
3. Contract with Ingrams should equal 55% discount with return policy.
4. Distribution of, lets say 5,000 copies of selected books to brick and mortar stores.
5. Public relations for PA authors increase for making a difference.

Voila- more notariety for pA authors. Just a thought.

Here's one destined to bite the dust in a hurry.

zizban · Mar 9, 2007

CatSlave said:
http://bb.publishamerica.com/viewtopic.php?t=20059

I've been thinking. It hurt a bit but I continued and here are my thoughts:
1. If PA gets printing facility up and running then their cost for printing books should go down.
2. Editing and submission requirements should get more rigid.
3. Contract with Ingrams should equal 55% discount with return policy.
4. Distribution of, lets say 5,000 copies of selected books to brick and mortar stores.
5. Public relations for PA authors increase for making a difference.

Voila- more notariety for pA authors. Just a thought.

Here's one destined to bite the dust in a hurry.

I'd say. That'd make PA like the rest of the industry.

Their own machine=higher profit margins, less accountability

brianm · Mar 9, 2007

A look into the inner workings of the well choreographed PA scam machine.

http://bb.publishamerica.com/viewtopic.php?t=20067

Title of thread: Where’s the Chill out board?

OP:

I thought my post had just been removed, but someone informed me that it was just moved to the Chill Out board. I didn't even know there was one. Where is that?
Pol

Moderators, could you tell me where I can find where the post was moved to?

PA member:

I believe the chill out boards are on the private boards. If you log in you should see both the public and private message boards.

OP:

I tried to find them, but obviously I'm doing something wrong. Thanks for the help, though.

OP:

Nope, I went back to check it out, but all I see are the public ones.

Same PA member:

Hmmm....

Have you requested to use the private boards? I know I was asked this when I first registered to use the boards. When I log in, the private boards are listed ABOVE the public ones.

I just saw your post on the chill out boards. Perhaps you should email support and let them know you are unable to view the private boards.

Mustn't let new recruits read the truth about PA.

Christine N. · Mar 9, 2007

Clue for the day- no one just 'distributes' books to bookstores. They are selected by buyers, usually sent by publishers or pushed by the publisher's distributor, to those buyers.

It's not like you wave a magic wand and you're in bookstores. Without a marketing plan to drive people to the store to buy the book, and still being a POD, none of the stores will touch you.

They bought the press, but that doesn't mean they're not still POD. Just makes it in-house instead of outsourced.

Bubastes · Mar 9, 2007

brianm said:
A look into the inner workings of the well choreographed PA scam machine.

http://bb.publishamerica.com/viewtopic.php?t=20067

Mustn't let new recruits read the truth about PA.

This reminds me of the old movie "Gaslight." It's creepy.

brianm · Mar 9, 2007

Update on the thread entitled, "Where's the Chill out Boards?"

The infomonster has deleted this thread in its entirety.

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