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rallygirl
04-12-2006, 03:21 PM
Today I received an email from a publisher informing me they had got my manuscript (1st 3 chapters). Is this normal? I only sent the manuscript yesterday. The editor also told me in the email she "likes my stuff" and had tried to phone me (silly me had phone turned off). She went on to say "now it's up to the other guys" (I think meaning co-workers?)...

Excuse my ignorance as I havent had a novel published before, and in the past (when I have sent other manuscripts) all I have received (three months later) are rejection slips and no other contact.

Is this one promising? I'm kinda excited!!

Thanks in advance
Rallygirl

KTC
04-12-2006, 03:27 PM
What's the name of the publisher? Did you look into them?

rallygirl
04-12-2006, 03:31 PM
Yes I looked into them and someone did recommended them to me.

Chickenchargrill
04-12-2006, 03:34 PM
Did you post it or email it in?

For the short's I've sent to places, I got an acknowledgement email straight away. It was a while until they got chance to read it and give feedback though.

Chickenchargrill
04-12-2006, 03:35 PM
who is the publisher?

rallygirl
04-12-2006, 03:35 PM
I posted it :)

That's why I'm so suprized at such a quick response!

KTC
04-12-2006, 03:38 PM
How could you post it one day and receive an email the next? That's fast post. Australia mail must move faster than Canadian! Wow! Maybe just wait and see what else they have to say?

majiklmoon
04-12-2006, 03:40 PM
rallygirl,

Please be cautious..I learned the hard way there are a lot of unscrupulous people out there trying to take advantage of authors. If you are uncomfortable telling us the name of the publisher, may I suggest you go to Bewares and Background (http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=22)Checks and see if the publisher is listed there.

I came this close to being sucked in by The Children's Literary Agency - which has 9 million different aliases it operates under. So please be cautious. And if I'm way wrong, and I so hope I am, CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chickenchargrill
04-12-2006, 03:40 PM
It's the same here, you post one day, they should get it the next.

They must have read the whole three chapters as soon as they got it!

rallygirl
04-12-2006, 03:40 PM
Yes and being so close to Easter I thought it was quick... :) lol

Publisher's name is "JO JO Publishing" they are here in Victoria Australia .

KTC
04-12-2006, 03:42 PM
Well...same place...I guess it would be possible. Wow, still. I always find that anything I send like birthday cards and such always arrives late. Maybe we're just more lax. here?

Congrats, by the way...it sounds promising!

rallygirl
04-12-2006, 03:45 PM
Thanks KTC. I'm off to see a fellow writer tomorrow to talk to him about it. At the moment I'm on edge and cant even think of sleep! I just needed to find out what was normal and what wasnt in publishing responses.:)

Chickenchargrill
04-12-2006, 03:47 PM
Not heard of them myself, but it looks fine, they're a specialist publishing house, so it makes sense they would have the time.

Looks promising, good luck!!

rallygirl
04-12-2006, 03:55 PM
Thanks chicken! I will keep you guys informed to what's happening. :)

rallygirl
04-12-2006, 03:57 PM
rallygirl,

Please be cautious..I learned the hard way there are a lot of unscrupulous people out there trying to take advantage of authors. If you are uncomfortable telling us the name of the publisher, may I suggest you go to Bewares and Background (http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=22)Checks and see if the publisher is listed there.

I came this close to being sucked in by The Children's Literary Agency - which has 9 million different aliases it operates under. So please be cautious. And if I'm way wrong, and I so hope I am, CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's bad luck! I thought about all that stuff too. Great to know I can pop in here and talk to fellow writers!

cwfgal
04-12-2006, 04:24 PM
I'm a little suspicious of this because publishers rarely (if ever) call or make any kind of decision about a work without having read the entire manuscript. Did the email ask you to send the rest?


Beth

Aconite
04-12-2006, 04:48 PM
I'm with cwfgal on this. Legit publishers rarely call and rave about your work before they've read your complete manuscript and decided to make an offer. I'd strongly suggest you go to the Bewares and Background Check board here on AW. In the Index at the top of the page, there are several threads on this sort of thing. I'd be very cautious, if I were you.

CaoPaux
04-12-2006, 08:13 PM
This the one? http://www.jojopublishing.com/

janetbellinger
04-12-2006, 08:18 PM
I noticed on the JoJo site that they also offer "services" to authentic new authors, which to me raises a red flag. What kind of services, and what do they charge for them?

JerseyGirl1962
04-12-2006, 08:34 PM
I noticed on the JoJo site that they also offer "services" to authentic new authors, which to me raises a red flag. What kind of services, and what do they charge for them?

I don't know, Janet - where did you see anything on services? I saw something on Memberships, but that seems to be directed toward readers; something like, "You join and we'll send you advance notice of our new books." It's that type of thing.

It could just be that my brain is not registering the services thingy that you saw.

~Nancy

FolkloreFanatic
04-12-2006, 08:59 PM
...it doesn't seem like Jo Costello has any experience selling fiction (which is why you're posting int this forum, right?).

It always raises red flags whenever someone says "helping new authors to follow their dreams." In this case, I think it's more of the publisher's inclination towards self-help language, but still.

That said, JoJo appears to have a legitimate market for self-help and inspirational books in Australia.

triceretops
04-13-2006, 05:50 AM
We offer support and encouragement to genuine new authors by providing infomation and awareness of other services that might be of assistance in helping them to realise their dream.

This is the quote from their webpage that could be construed as a warning, but it is unclear, since you have to ask them questions via their email solicitation. What is a GENUINE new author, anyway? I would contact them first to find out a bit more about what they are offering.

Tri

Jamesaritchie
04-13-2006, 07:21 AM
We offer support and encouragement to genuine new authors by providing infomation and awareness of other services that might be of assistance in helping them to realise their dream.

This is the quote from their webpage that could be construed as a warning, but it is unclear, since you have to ask them questions via their email solicitation. What is a GENUINE new author, anyway? I would contact them first to find out a bit more about what they are offering.

Tri



It's just never a good idea for an agent to recommend other services, period.

triceretops
04-13-2006, 08:12 AM
I agree, James. This sounds like a bait and hook to me. I think it's nebulous enough to where you can't put your finger on it, and that's the intention.

Tri

rallygirl
04-13-2006, 11:30 AM
Thanks for your replies...i guess I will just sit tight and see what happens now...maybe nothing? Nice to have dreams in the meantime :)
At least I took that step forward and sent my manuscript out, otherwise it would still be sitting on my desk gathering dust...

triceretops
04-13-2006, 11:38 AM
No problem there rallygirl. No harm done, and you certainly are entitled to dreams just like anyone. All writers are sensitive dreamers. You've come a long ways by just sending out your finished material. By all means, keep submitting, throwing a lot of eggs out in multiple baskets and wait for that little chick to pop up. Please let us know how things go. Kay?

Tri

Aconite
04-13-2006, 04:44 PM
RE: "helping new authors" and "hopes and dreams:

Linguistic markers (of literary scams) (http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005540.html)

More lingusitic markers (http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005555.html)

Teresa Nielsen Hayden, author of the above articles, is an editor at Tor. She knows what she's talking about.

janetbellinger
04-13-2006, 05:10 PM
see Tri's post

JerseyGirl1962
04-13-2006, 05:46 PM
see Tri's post

Thanks, Janet. My bad. :e2smack:

~Nancy

Helix
09-11-2015, 12:15 PM
I'm bumping this necrothread about JoJo Publishing* because ABC Radio National is running a program about them tomorrow (http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/the-vanity-presses/6759616).


Hundreds of Australian authors pay thousands of dollars to 'vanity publishers', often based on unfulfilled promises that their books will be widely promoted and distributed here and overseas. Hagar Cohen investigates the dubious practices of one Australian publisher as she tries to find the authors’ books in any bookstore.

The podcast and transcript should be available soon after broadcast tomorrow. ABC radio progs usually aren't geoblocked.


*Mods, would it be possible to add that to the thread title? Also to shift it to Bewares?

amergina
09-11-2015, 06:14 PM
Resurrected and moved from Novels.

Filigree
09-11-2015, 06:26 PM
Finally! Any exposure of these kinds of mountebanks is A Good Thing. It won't stop all the hopeful newbs from sending in their manuscripts and paying for publication. But maybe it will reach a few potential victims.

triceretops
09-11-2015, 08:29 PM
This will be a life preserver for authors/writers. I had no idea the Australian authors were having such a time of it with seedy pay-for-print presses. Gawd knows we see enough of it in the States. The more that can be done about this the better.

Helix
09-12-2015, 03:42 AM
Oops! It's on Sunday, not Saturday. I will listen and report back.

Helix
09-13-2015, 03:26 AM
Okay. It's a long programme (45 mins, 37MB download), but I'd recommend it for everyone who isn't up to speed on how publishing works. They talk to Louise Adler (Melbourne University Press) about acquisitions and finance, to a book buyer for Dymocks about how books are selected for sale and promoted in shop, to a rep from the Australian Society of Authors, and a few others about the process of trade publishing, as well as to the authors affected by JoJo Publishing.

Here's the link again: http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/the-vanity-presses/6759616

The transcript will be on the site on Tuesday.

In the prog, they discuss the main probs with JoJo -- charging the authors (some of which was spent on hospitality and travel to the Frankfurt Book Fair), no statements, little communication, little/no placement of books in bricks and mortar outlets, defence of tactics etc.

Filigree
09-13-2015, 05:43 AM
Thank you! I'll have links upon my blog.

imogenenix
10-07-2015, 04:15 AM
Hearing chatter that they've gone down claiming bankruptcy.

http://www.booksellerandpublisher.com.au/item/34129

Anyone who is caught up in the Jojo mess needs to get in now and attempt to cover their losses.

Sorry to anyone who is.

Helix
10-07-2015, 05:00 AM
Thanks for the update, Imogene! The B&P article is paywalled, but the free snippet says,


Melbourne-based Jojo Publishing, which charges writers a fee to publish their books, has filed for voluntary liquidation. In September the company was the subject of an ABC investigation which alleged over 30 Jojo authors believed they were scammed after they each invested between $9000 and $35,000 of their own money, among...

ETA: Following the lead, I found this longer article (http://www.smartcompany.com.au/finance/48647-book-publisher-collapses-into-liquidation-an-estimated-50-authors-owed-money.html):


According to Books+Publishing (http://www.booksellerandpublisher.com.au/item/34129), the JoJo Publishing’s creditors include several book distributors, as well as authors.

One contractor told Books+Publishing they are owed more than $5000 for work completed for JoJo, while author Linda Maree Malcolm said in a blog post (http://www.lindamareemalcolmauthor.com.au/a-life-pared-back-to-basics/) she was scheduled to attend a Small Business Commission mediation hearing with the business prior to the appointment of liquidators.

Malcolm, the author of Oracle in the Mist, said she was seeking to recover more than $40,000 from the business although she said that amount “is not anywhere near what they owe me”.