Basket Writing: 10 Novels, 10 Pen Names

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I had a crazy idea about creating 10 novels in a year under 10 different pen names and seeing which one sticks.

Maybe some sell poorly, maybe some sell better than the rest. The whole idea being not to dwell on any one novel because in the end, the market/people will decide which ones they love or hate anyways and your opinion and time could be wasted.

Think of it in terms of a Mutual Fund you invest in. In the end, it doesn't matter if you think it's a great company in the basket, the market will decide and price the stocks in the basket accordingly. But if you have a decent basket properly diversified, you may see some financial growth from your writing.

Obviously if you have a real gem that's not for the basket or in the basket, you can invest in it individually and give it the time and attention it deserves. But for the most part your writing portfolio would be very diversified.

And similar to a portfolio, you chase the winners with more support. So if one book does very well under one pen name, you continue to capitalize on that particular pen name, genre or theme.

I would speculate that famous writers throughout history have done this in some way. It's well known that a number of famous writers have used pen names, but who's to say they didn't have many pen names that nobody knew about and until they hit their best niche, did they settle down and announce publicly what their "official" pen name was. In other words, this technique may in fact be the historical norm for success and we'd never know.

In a way it sounds like cheating and some would say it's impossible to write 10 novels in a year. But if you don't put the pressure on yourself that it has to be perfect, I'm sure a novel could be written in a month or so. And if anything it may make the whole ordeal more fun and more creative. In the back of your mind you will think, it doesn't matter which avenue I take, cause in the next novel I can always utilize the other ideas that keep detouring me into the "writer's block zone".

The way I see it, writer's block is simply the idea that there are too many options or directions to take each moving point of action that you come to a complete stand still. Whereas if you know you are going to have 9 more novels thereafter, it doesn't really matter if you choose "A" or "B" or "C" or "D" because you can always use those ideas somewhere else in the next few novels.

What do you think?
 
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I suspect you'd be better served actually concentrating on writing and polishing one novel at a time, and making sure it's the best book you can possibly write.


*shrug*

But whatever works for ya.
 

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What you're talking about is a lot of work. A million edited words per annum, or about 3,000 per day. If it takes you as much time to edit as to write, you'll need to be making 6,000 unedited words per day.

I'm not saying it's impossible; there's at least one person I know of who does write that much, but it is a rare ability.

Also, I'm not sure that ten psuedonyms would be an advantage. Readers primarily buy books based on author recognition. If you have five books on the market under the same name, readers are much more likely to have heard of you when they look at one of them.
 

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That's a good question right now.
I'm with Mac. I'd rather right one really good novel than ten rushed ones. I think the one good novel will have a better chance of finding an audience than any of the ten rushed ones, but that's just me. It's your call and your career. However you want to handle it is up to you.
 

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The problem is, though, that writing a good novel is at best a hit & miss process. It's impossible to objectively define what a good novel is, and different people have lots of different ideas of what it is, so you can never know when you've written one.

And spending more time on a single novel doesn't necessarily mean that it will transform it into a good one. You might be putting all your time into a project that will only ever be, at best, mediocre.

I prefer having a few different projects on the go. I just think 10 is probably too many! :)
 
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I plan to write the Great Scottish Novel this year. I'm going to call it Greyfriars Roy Ivanhoe's 39 Steps: a Tale of Jekyll and Hyde and How They Were Kidnapped on a Treasure Island

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I had this same idea (not to see "which one stuck", but because I like to write various genre) and was quickly dissuaded of it by our agent.

The reason?

What happens if one of the books DOES take off? What if half of them do? With ten different pen names, you've diluted your own name -- and thereby slit your own professional throat. The readers can't find your other books, because the bookstores won't put the books side by side, even if one of them is a big seller. Even the mega prolific Nora Roberts/J.D. Robb books are seldom shelved together.

Pick a name and stick with it. Pick a genre and stick with it. At least until you've gotten enough readers to follow you from one shelf to the next. Stephen King readers WILL follow him to the mystery shelves for his new pulp detective paperback, even if they don't normally read mysteries. They'll buy the Bachman books, because they know it's him. But FIRST, he had to establish a name.

Just my .02.
 

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That's a good question right now.
I agree you may not know what readers will like and what they won't, but I would argue that a writer does realize when their own writing is not on par. I think it is part of the growth process when you know that your writing is clicking and that the story is doing what you want or need for it to accomplish.

I've deleted thousands of words out of my novel project not because there was a problem with the writing, but because I would know that something was not right with the story contained within the scene and would worry and fret at it until I realized what track I was supposed to be on. At that point, everything "clicks." If I were spread too thin and just worried about wordcount I would not be able to listen to these internal signals I have been getting and would not have been able to make certain all the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle that is this novel were fitting together properly.

This is not to say that a writer cannot work on multiple projects. I work on shorter projects at the same time as my novel. I know other writers do the same. Multi-tasking is different than just throwing a handful of darts all at once in the hopes that one hits the bullseye, though. We must all know our limits.
 

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Ten novels a year is a brutal pace. I can do four a year, but I do this full time, and I've had a lot of practice.

You know what the bad thing about ten novels under ten names is?

Ten first-novel advances and ten first-novel sales figures.

If it trips your trigger, though ... go for it. Just as long as you're having fun.
 

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I'm happy if I can finish two manuscripts in a twelve-month period. And that includes rewrites, editing, proofreading, etc. If I were to turn out ten books a year, they'd all suck.
 

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If I turned out ten novels in one year, they would suck, I would have a serious drug addiction, and I would probably have started to talk to squirrels.

Soem authors have hidden behind a pen name, and then later revealed themselves to the public. This is true. There was usually a solid reason behind it, though, not just a marketing idea. I forget the reason Stephen King wrote as Richard Bachman for a while there.

For example, there's Andre Norton. She started writing at a time when it was extremely difficult for women to write and publish science fiction. Thus, her pen name was "Andre Norton" (and sometimes, Andrew North, which I'm delighted to say I have some books by) because it was vague enough that it was assumed to be male.

If it floats your boat, but I would otherwise just write something really brilliantly, then sell it as yourself, then write the next piece really brilliantly.
 

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Cathy C said:
I had this same idea (not to see "which one stuck", but because I like to write various genre) and was quickly dissuaded of it by our agent.

The reason?

What happens if one of the books DOES take off? What if half of them do? With ten different pen names, you've diluted your own name -- and thereby slit your own professional throat. The readers can't find your other books, because the bookstores won't put the books side by side, even if one of them is a big seller. Even the mega prolific Nora Roberts/J.D. Robb books are seldom shelved together.

Pick a name and stick with it. Pick a genre and stick with it. At least until you've gotten enough readers to follow you from one shelf to the next. Stephen King readers WILL follow him to the mystery shelves for his new pulp detective paperback, even if they don't normally read mysteries. They'll buy the Bachman books, because they know it's him. But FIRST, he had to establish a name.

Just my .02.

Great advice here. And as others have already said, do what feels right for you. A lot of the impossibles have been made possible. I however think this task will hurt you a lot more than help, especially with so many names. You can still write ten novels, but take your time and give each the editing attention needed. Your goal is to sell books. Good Luck though. Heck keep us posted too. I'd love to know your progress.
 

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My record times for (published) novels are: 21 days, 10 days, and 72 hours.

I wouldn't recommend this to anyone, and I've stopped doing that. (And after that 72 hour marathon my wrists weren't the same for about six months ... so my overall productivity was down for that year.)

It's possible, but it's not anything like a good idea.

(The 72 hour one ... I put Richard Thompson's Pharoah as performed by the House Band (it's got a beat you can type to) on infinite repeat over headphones, and drank a lot of coffee.)
 

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In hour 73, your brain gives you an odd glance and then slopes off to the pub to wait for you to regain your senses. You and your muse don't notice, you're too busy, but your screaming wrists would really like to head off with your brain right about then...:)

If I really crunched, and I do mean really, I type fast enough and I write freely enough that I could manage about fifty pages in a day. I'm well aware of it, but I've never pushed myself to that point. Furthest I've pushed is I occasionally, on nice days, will turn out twenty pages in a day. That's fine. If you run hot all the time, eventually you're not going to be running at all.
 

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That is very impressive James. I was thinking maybe spending a month per novel or book.

As Jules concluded, in the end you are somewhat throwing darts either way because you really don't know if all that polishing has improved it in the public's eyes. What if the polishing has made it worst? The lack of spontaneity, the fear of taking the risks of immediate ideas, or the fear of taking a certain direction because you don't feel you can sustain it, could make a novel duller than it should be.

Also you have to consider, a lot of writers take years for one book. All that time spent in that one book trying to polish it is filled with second guessing. One week the novel needs to be more user friendly and reach a wider audience, the next week the novel has to be more in touch with it's primary audience, the next week it has to be more edgy and the last week it has to be more thought provoking. The end result is a push away from original excitement of spontaneity and a writer who is too invested in the novel to be able to deal with it failing.

If it fails, the writer feels they have failed and wasted years of their life. And they will likely think, what if I took the second path here, or maybe if I did it this way instead it would have worked.

I just think it brutal. In the end, what it really comes down to, as an English professor once said to me, "who are you writing for, yourself or the people?"

If you are writing for yourself it has to be perfect. If you are writing for others, it has to be entertaining at the least. Nothing else really matters as long as they enjoyed it and a lot of people enjoy variety. 10 new novels may mean that they will pass by at least 1 and think, hmm.. that looks interesting, I think I'll give it a chance.

Also someone mentioned that by breaking up the pen names you may dilute your brand. Well, you have to consider it on both sides as well. If all 10 are on one brand and someone doesn't like one of the books, they are highly likely to not buy the other 9. Not only that, but as someone just starting, creating a pipeline of 10 pen names could lead to a solid business model for the next 20 years.

What if Stephen King wrote under 10 pen names when he first started? Perhaps he did from the start and that's why he is famous. The King pen name was most popular and he may have used his revenue from the other pen names to pour resources into the King products. Everyone knows he used other names, but what's to say he didn't have many more.

Also, we are seeing an increase in literary critics. If you receive a horrible review on one of your books out of 10 under the same pen name, it could ruin your career. They could say it was too immature, or offensive, or possibly racist, or their where too many typos, it was unprofessional, it was boring, it wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.

There you are, you've spent years on it and some critic wasn't entertained enough to overlook whatever small error you may have not caught. Because if you are entertained enough, you won't care what the price is. Or if there was a typo, or if it doesn't make sense. Think about how many movies are put out that are littered with errors. You can go to IMDB.com and review errors in all sorts of movies. These are million dollar budgets, with large staffs editing and producing the work. And one thing they know is, nothing is perfect, but it must be entertaining.

I'm just saying, it may be a lot like sales. And sales is a numbers game. It's like a telemarketer calling 100 people, 20 answer the phone, 10 are someone interested, 5 will meet with you, and maybe 3 will buy.

Also, you have to consider that most people don't trust novels. I for instance, don't trust novels, but I can trust people. What I mean is, I won't just go into a bookstore and grab a novel off the shelf randomly. I will thumb through a few without consideration of whe the writer is. Because most, to be honest, I don't know who they are anyways. So I'll thumb through, if the content relates to me in some way, is what I find humorous or entertaining...then I may give it a buy. Now if you are like me, this has nothing to do with name recognition. Because no name has yet been established.

Also if you are like me, you have went through about 20 or so books before you got to that one book. If I see a trend and that each book I pick up is by a certain author I don't like, I won't even give the title a shot. I will think, if they wrote something so silly over there, this will sure be just a ridiculous. I think in part, it is good originally not to associate yourself with yourself.

So everytime someone buys a novel they are assuming some sort of risk on the book. And that risk is taken based on the random exposure like a telemarketing call, the random word of mouth, or other avenues.

Also, I wanted to add, it may not be 10 exactly. It may be 5 in a year, it may be 7 or 12. It's the concept though that we are questioning.
 
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All I'm saying is a lot of my writing somewhat pours out my mind. Some say it's a muse or something esoteric, but I think that those ideas should get a shot.

Could you imagine if the bible was written today. There God is trying to get you to put it down in writing, he's pouring it into your head, into your dreams, into your immediate reactions, and you spend 3 years pollishing it or waiting for something better to come along. Pollishing what, immediate inspiration? I say, just go for it.
 

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a novel a month for 10 months (allowing the last two months for polishing) - that's like 10 nanowrimos in a row - and unless you're already a professional, almost impossible. And professionals wouldn't do it.

best to concentrate on no more than two - and if you want, two pen names, and then go from there.

you know, you can write a story about a mc who is a writer and comes up with this idea -- and since it's something you have been contemplating, you can live your dream through the mc. Could be interesting.

I just read "One perfect day" in which this non writer writes a best seller and his whole life is turned inside out and upside down - especially during his book tour (and though I've never published a book, I kept thinking, "that's just not how it works" )
 

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I agree with you September skies, a professional writer would not let you know they did it.
 

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There are several writers (and ONLY several writers) who can pump out a book a month. Nora Roberts is one. She writes eight hours a day, five days a week, and publishes with multiple houses. But note that she DOESN'T write under more than two names. J.D. Robb being the other. Sherrilyn Kenyon also writes as Kinley MacGregor. Katie MacAlister writes as Katie Maxwell. Claire Delacroix as Claire Cross. The list goes on and on. There are a few writers who have written under multiple names (more than three), but only a very few.

Now, I write pretty darned fast. Like Jim, I've pumped out a book (122K) in just under 18 days. Another was in 30 days. They were both publishable quality in the first draft. So, the first thing you have to discover about yourself is whether or not you CAN write in one pass -- two at the most, in order to produce 10 manuscripts in a year.

Even if you can create a tight plot, with braided subplots; engaging, believable characters, and crisp, vivid prose the first time around -- I wouldn't recommend that you try to produce at this level. Even if you can find enough publishers to release that many books (most won't release more than three books by a single author a year), you'll have a difficult time doing all the edits, copy edits and galleys for that many books. Switching mental gears to go backwards to previous book plots, to get back in that mind-set, is hard enough with two or three without trying to manage ten. If six books only require minor edits, but four of them have gaping plot holes, and you've contracted for ten, you'll have a pretty miserable year if ANYTHING goes wrong in your personal life.

Last year, we did three, plus two anthology stories, and it was hard because of some unplanned illnesses. But the publisher doesn't care if there are problems. They have deadlines, and you have to meet them.

My best advice is to stick with two to three to start and then move up if you discover you can do it comfortably. I still recommend not using ten pen names. You'll lose all your cross traffic. People who love the books by Bill Smith might not EVER discover the ones by Tom Jones or Mary Thompson, even if you advertise it.
Good luck!
 

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All I'm saying is a lot of my writing somewhat pours out my mind. Some say it's a muse or something esoteric, but I think that those ideas should get a shot.

Start writing, Aero. That's my suggestion. I think you'll find it harder to get those ideas that are pouring out of your mind down on paper in a way that is satisfactory to you or anyone else at the pace you think you will. Even when I was doing NaNo, I was two days behind in writing where my mind was in scenes flowing out of it. Talk to people who did NaNo. I got it done, but I gave up having a life for that month (which of course was the month my friends all wanted to do things). Think about doing that for a full year. Consider what the others on here have mentioned about their writing sprees & how wiped they've been (physically & mentally) afterwards. Give it a try, but don't stress too much if it doesn't work out.

I'm sure that any writer who did write under a bunch of pen names that made a name for themselves would eventually own up to those other pen names. Think about it. If Stephen King, or even more recent successes like Dan Brown or J.K. Rowling, had other pen names, & continue writing now (we can assume) 'cuz they like that nice paycheck from royalties, what do they have to lose by saying, "Oh, yeah, I also wrote under the names Sue Donym, P.N. Name, Joe Schmoe, & John Smith."? Not much, I'd say, considering that their fans will flock blindly to those books to read something new by an author they like. Those same fans might not find them as up to the standards that they expect from that author, but they'll write it off as being before they got good, or under a pen name because it was catering to a different audience, or whatever. They won't abandon the author anymore than they will if that author writes one stinker in a bunch of masterpieces, as long as the author continues to writing to the standard they expect. So the author would have nothing to lose by owning up to such a situation that you describe.

Which is why my guess is that those authors focused on writing the best book they could, rather than focusing on writing as many as possible & hoping that one might possibly be good enough that it would provide a quick fanbase, as you suggest.
 

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I agree, one thing you sacrifice is your cross sell numbers. But in some ways that is good. What if the person shopping for a book isn't interested in your section in the bookstore. Let's say you have three novels and they are on the bottom shelf and nobody is ever interested in that section. Maybe there are titles around it that are boring and they quickly move past it.

Now lets say you have 10 titles scattered out in the novel section of a bookstore. Each row there is at least one of your titles. If they turn the corner, another book is there waiting to be seen. It's like a strategic war! Now I know, if you are a new writer, sure you may make it. But from what I hear, the majority don't. This strategy could prove successful. You risk losing your cross sell, but that's only initially.

A good example is, Coca-Cola. How many products do you think they make, that most people don't know are made by Coca Cola. I'm sure they even put on the container, "A Coca-Cola Product", yet most people still don't know. But they keep buying the products they like under the titles or series they like the most.

http://www2.coca-cola.com/brands/brandlist.html
 

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Aero said:
...in the end you are somewhat throwing darts either way...

Also you have to consider...

Well, you have to consider it on both sides...

What if...

Also...

Think about...

I'm just saying...

Also, you have to consider that...

Also if you are like me,...

Also, I wanted to add,...
Aero, with all those reasons that ten books in a year might be the way to go, you apparently think it's a fine plan. So go ahead if that's what you've decided to do. Nobody here is going to talk you out of it. But you aren't going to talk anybody here into it, either.
 
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