Hobs: Can I safely call them that?

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In my middle grade fantasy novel (currently in Rewrites), the MC, a modern-day twelve-year-old boy, goes back in time to early medieval Britain. While he's there, he meets a couple of the "little folk" (in the pixie/leprechaun/brownie sense). When I needed a name for these people, I decided, after studying the British legends and folk-tales about such people, to call them "hobs".

Now, "hobs" is an actual term for such folk (among other things, it's the source of the "hob" part of "hobgoblin"), but I was concerned that it might be too close to "hobbit" for many readers. I don't think it would be too much a problem, since:

1. It's an actual name from legend that happens to resemble Tolkien's own (and none of the other terms for such people in British folklore had the right feel here) - and Tolkien might have chosen the name for his own "little folk" because of its evocations. ("Might" being the word; I recommend the first two Appendices of "The History of the Hobbit, Part Two: Return to Bag End" by John D. Rateliff for more on that. Actually, I recommend Rateliff's two-volume work for anybody interested in "The Hobbit"; it's great.)

2. The MC has read "The Hobbit" (and probably "The Lord of the Rings"), and his immediate response to discovering that the "little folk" are called hobs is "You've got to be kidding me" (though he's tactful enough to only think it, not say it). He even checks to see if they have furry feet (they don't; at least, he assumes they don't, since they're wearing shoes).

3. The only traits they have in common with Tolkien's hobbits are those that hobbits share with the traditional "little folk" (small size, good at hiding, etc.).

So, with these three things in mind, the name choice is probably safe, but I'd like to make certain.
 

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Even being familiar with hobbits, I didn't think hobbit when I read "hob"; I thought of the hobs (evil, little goblin types) in the video game Fable, which I doubt your readers would have played.

Usually, I just assume that names for creatures are either very old and dug back up out of actual legend or are all variations on some old, real thing, or just traded around. I rarely think, "Oh, that's too similar!" especially in a fantasy.

I don't see any problem with it.
 

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I think in Fable they were called Hobbes, which I assume was a little joke (they were 'nasty, brutish and short.')
 

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They were spelled hobbes. Homophonic confusion--not my fault. :tongue and ;)

The point, though, was that I think of other things before hobbit, so its not a straight-to sort of comparison for me, and it wouldn't give me pause if they're called hobs.
 

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When I read 'Hob' I think of either Hobgoblins or the erstwhile Mr Gadling from Gaiman's Sandman series (i.e. an olde English name that no longer has common usage). So no hobbits here... I would think 'hobbit' if you used a name that rhymed like Bobbit, however.
 

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I think Hobs is fine. My story has gremlins, and I'm nicknaming the grems. Not the furry creatures from the movies, but the kind that interferes with mechanics.

I like that your MC recognizes the names. I think it makes it even more okay. My MC will think about the gremlins from the movie. She is a retro kid and loves the 80s.

I think it is better to call yourself out on similarities in writing, especially if it is the frame of reference of the characters.
Laura
 

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Thanks, everyone. That's a relief.
 

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I like that your MC recognizes the names. I think it makes it even more okay. I think it is better to call yourself out on similarities in writing, especially if it is the frame of reference of the characters.
Laura

I agree. What was it Sid Fleischmann said about plot holes? Something about "if you mention it, it goes away". Same thing here. Just knowing the mc is aware of it will solve the problem--if there even is one.
 

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A hob is a male ferret! (Specifically, it's the term used for intact male ferrets.) I've also heard of it in the goblin sense, and I had a ferret named Goblin based on this. (He was the sweetest boy.)

I'm actually planning to use a variation of hob in one of my books (the sequel to the book my agent is subbing). I think we're both fine.
 

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Spiderwick Chronicles has hobs. Lots of fantasy things have hobs, actually. I'm too lazy to check my son's Dungeons and Dragons books to be sure, but I think DnD has all kinds of hobs. Anybody who's a folklore/monster geek would know right away you mean hobgoblins. And in the US, hobgoblins are common critters at Halloween, so you don't even have to worry about us folks across the pond not recognizing the term.
 

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Fwiw, one of the people-groups in When the Sea is Rising Red are called Hobs, taken from the root word hobgoblin. And they are most definitely not hobbits.

( I call all the books written within that world the Hobverse books, and the first book I wrote in it was called Hob an Lam.)


So what I'm saying, basically, is go for it. :D
 

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Spiderwick Chronicles has hobs. Lots of fantasy things have hobs, actually. I'm too lazy to check my son's Dungeons and Dragons books to be sure, but I think DnD has all kinds of hobs. Anybody who's a folklore/monster geek would know right away you mean hobgoblins. And in the US, hobgoblins are common critters at Halloween, so you don't even have to worry about us folks across the pond not recognizing the term.

Agreed, using "hobs" shouldn't be a problem. Hobs are also used in Jim Butcher's Dresden Files series (in Small Favor).