car review annoys car dealers; dealers demand review be "softened"; car reviewer says "I QUIT!"

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car review annoys car dealers; dealers demand review be "softened"; car reviewer says "I QUIT!"

Hooray for that journalist/reviewer (Scott Burgess of the Detroit News).

Here's the original review which called the car a "dog."

Here's the explanation given by the Detroit News as to why Burgess quit.

Here's the NYT treatment of it.

Detroit News Auto Critic Resigns After Dealer Complaint Results in Changes to Review

By MARY M. CHAPMAN
March 17, 2011, 5:45 pm

... Mr. Burgess said he had been told “point by point” what to change in the column, which appeared in the print edition of the paper on March 10. His amended version remained unfavorable in tenor, but, as reported Thursday by Jalopnik, the Web site that broke the story, the article no longer included sentences like, “If this is the best vehicle Detroit exports, then Glenn Beck is right,” and, “Regrettably, the 200 is still a dog.”...
 

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It's outrageous, but I guess... y'know... Japan, Libya, unions...

But the thing that outrages me about this is that it's just another, albeit minor, example of the takeover of public discourse by corporate interests. It seems there is no such thing as an independent voice anymore -- everything must be in service of one corporation or business or another. It is unacceptable, and knowing that a supposedly independent publication had altered a product review per the demands of those trying to make money off the product would have me denouncing and never buying that publication again.

Now, I don't know the tone of the pub in general, but some of the language that was taken out did fall into the "cheap shot" category. But so what? An editor might have taken those out for style, but to take them out because the subject of the review bitched about it being too negative for their taste? Yeah, uh, no, just suck it up, boys. It's called a review, and you got a bad one. And to the dealers who are stuck trying to sell a car labeled a lemon? Oh, well, take it up with the manufacturer or else do some aggressive counter-marketing.

The publication was wrong to alter the review. The reviewer was right to quit working for them and to make a stink about it. IMO. :)
 

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Is this issue so unworthy?

No, it's not an unworthy issue. It's yet another manifestation of whoredom on the part of newspapers. It indicates a very big, ugly problem that won't go away yet shouldn't be accepted.
 
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I own a Dodge and love it. But too bad that Chrysler cars are not highly regarded. Recently bought the Consumer's Report New Car Review issue - most auto companies rated higher than Chrysler/Dodge. I went to the auto show in my town and at in the new Durango - nowhere as nice as the 2002 model I have.

That a reporter felt he had to quit because of an honest review is terrible.
Can you imagine a movie critic doing the same because of a one star review?
 

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You need disaster porn to stir the crowd these days.

Am I allowed to say that, or is humor frowned upon?
 

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I think this is the second time in 2 months where I launched a thread and no one replied.

Is this issue so unworthy?

I'm glad you posted it. I just didn't have anything to say besides some approval/disapproval remark. This is a common thing and I maybe most people are just tired of it. :(
 

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This is a great illustration of the biggest flaw in current conservative political philosophy.
The far right and libertarians are quick to generate hysteria about the danger of government power, while ignoring the equally grave threat of the power of corporations.
 

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This is a great illustration of the biggest flaw in current conservative political philosophy.
The far right and libertarians are quick to generate hysteria about the danger of government power, while ignoring the equally grave threat of the power of corporations.

While I agree with you, I can't help thinking that the left wing needs to "righten up" a little bit on the odd occasion as well.

Corporations do have way too much power though. Way too much.
 

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I think the theory goes that that power has been taken by (or using) governmental force. But it's gotten downright confusing for me...not sure which begins where.

It's gotten downright Orborosian.
 

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This is the car that Eminem decided to jump into for the Super Bowl ad version of a Detroit vehicle. Subsequent ads do not have slim shady. As far as this viral-belch, I hope this guy gets a nice job wherever he wants. And PD, sorry I didn't comment sooner!
 

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I think the theory goes that that power has been taken by (or using) governmental force. But it's gotten downright confusing for me...not sure which begins where.

It's gotten downright Orborosian.

Zoombie! :rant:

Now I'm going to have look up "Orborosian"!
 

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While I agree with you, I can't help thinking that the left wing needs to "righten up" a little bit on the odd occasion as well.

Corporations do have way too much power though. Way too much.

I don't know about that. I think you'll find plenty on the left who are concerned about government invasion of their civil liberties. It's just that for them, that invasion comes in the form of government spying and religiously motivated legislation, as opposed to individual mandates and corporate regulation.
 

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This is a great illustration of the biggest flaw in current conservative political philosophy.
The far right and libertarians are quick to generate hysteria about the danger of government power, while ignoring the equally grave threat of the power of corporations.
True as far as the far right and the "corporate wing" of libertarians goes. OTOH, many libertarians recognize the faulty reasoning behind CATO and Reason's corporate cheerleading, and believe corporations need to go.

And it's worth noting that corporations don't have the power to regulate, to restrict competitors from entering the marketplace, to require consumers to buy their products, or to force raw materials producers to sell to them. Corporations don't have the power to drag you before the bar for your "sins" against them, nor to take fines from your wallet, to throw you in jail for refusing to pay, or invade your home and drag you off if you refuse to show up for incarceration.

To do all those things, they need the active collusion of the very government structures that are supposed to protect the individual from predation. Note how often "industry leaders" are involved in writing the legislation that supposedly keeps them in check.

Corporations have way, way, way too much power. But they were granted every bit of that power, from their very creation onward, by legislation and the courts. Sans legislation, corporations as we know them today would not exist.

The left's ongoing belief that one day government will magically start taking up for the consumer instead of the people who bought them is pure fantasyland.

Government is the buddy that holds them over the barrel while corporations screw them over.

And because Uncle Sam pats them on the cheek as they're being ravaged, and says the other guy got nailed twice as hard, it's their "patriotic duty," it's not that bad, and it will be over soon, the left thinks of him as their savior. :rolleyes: