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Plot Device
11-18-2009, 07:33 PM
This is from the Nov 17 newsletter of the Texas Department of Public Safety.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/director_staff/public_information/pr111709.pdf


DPS warns parents:
Mexican cartels and gangs recruiting in Texas schools


November 17, 2009

The Texas Department of Public Safety is warning parents across the state to be aware of efforts by Mexican cartels and transnational gangs to recruit Texas youth in our schools and communities. These violent organizations are luring teens with the prospect of cars, money and notoriety, promising them if they get caught, they will receive a minimal sentence.

The Mexican cartels constantly seek new ways to smuggle drugs and humans into Texas are now using state based gangs and our youth to support their operations on both sides of the border.

For example, Laredo natives Gabriel Cardona and Rosalio Reta were recruited in their teens to be hit men for the Zetas. The Zetas, composed primarily of former Mexican military commandos, originally served as the enforcement arm of the Gulf Cartel, but have since become their own cartel. El Paso teens have been recruited to smuggle drugs across the border, many with the packs taped to their bodies.


Meanwhile, here is the exact text of what a Texas guy living within 20 miles of the Mexican border said in reference to this exact situation. I'm not saying I agree with what this guy said, more trying to make other people aware that some guy claims he has been given said-advice by a Texas deputy:


I have been takling to my uncle a local deputy , he has been hinting of this a while , he knows that the local sheriff is well outguned by this scum and complains bitterly about the open border to the south , 2000 people have been murdered in Juarez this year including a 7 year old US citizen.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33876408/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33876408/)


His advice is cary a gun everywhere , have at least 2 in the car ,Keep a pump gun loaded with buck shot at ALL TIMES in the house,DO NOT WALK ACROSS YOUR PASTURE UNARMED , I said i do not have a concealed carry licence , he said in this county we are more intrested in you keeping yourself alive than bothering about that stupid carry law . Practice A LOT, hit what you aim at , carry a .45 nothing smaler ..........





And ... for anyone who would prefer not to click upon the MSNBC link in that guy's quote ... here's what that link leads to:


Mexican business groups call for U.N. troops

5,000 soldiers aren't enough protection, Ciudad Juarez business owners say

AP -- Thurs., Nov . 12, 2009

MEXICO CITY - Business groups in the Mexican border city of Ciudad Juarez said Wednesday they are calling for United <NOBR id=itxt_nobr_0_0 style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 100%; COLOR: darkgreen">Nationshttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2.gif</NOBR> (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33876408/#) peacekeepers to quell the drug-related violence that has given their city one of the highest homicide rates in the world.

Groups representing assembly plants, retailers and other businesses said they will submit a request to the Mexican government and the Inter American Human Rights Commission to ask the U.N. to send help.

"This is a proposal ... for international forces to come here to help out the domestic (security) forces," said Daniel Murguia, president of the Ciudad Juarez chapter of the National Chamber of <NOBR id=itxt_nobr_2_0 style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 100%; COLOR: darkgreen">Commercehttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2.gif</NOBR> (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33876408/#), Services and Tourism. "There is a lot of extortions and robberies of businesses. Many businesses are closing."





So ... no matter how you slice it, we have some "border tensions" at the moment, or at least among the locals living on both sides of the divider line.

SPMiller
11-18-2009, 07:41 PM
I knew a young woman who lived in Dallas and ran drugs across the Mexican border as a high schooler in the mid-to-late 90s. Kept a gun in her glovebox and everything. Probably got away with it because she was so cute and white and female. This ain't nothin new, unless you mean the scope of it is new.

William Haskins
11-18-2009, 07:46 PM
as soon as obama grants amnesty to 12 million illegals, they'll gratefully go to work in legitimate jobs, and all the others wanting to get into the country will politely turn around and go home.

everything's fine.

Plot Device
11-18-2009, 07:52 PM
I knew a young woman who lived in Dallas and ran drugs across the Mexican border as a high schooler in the mid-to-late 90s. Kept a gun in her glovebox and everything. Probably got away with it because she was so cute and white and female. This ain't nothin new, unless you mean the scope of it is new.


Texas DPS is making the claim that the situation is "growing." The following is a quote from the same article.



While such recruitment is growing across Texas, juveniles along the Texas-Mexico border are particularly susceptible. In 2008, young people from the counties along the Texas-Mexico border accounted for just 9 percent of the population in Texas, but 18 percent of the felony drug charges and gang-related arrests.

StephanieFox
11-18-2009, 07:56 PM
as soon as obama grants amnesty to 12 million illegals, they'll gratefully go to work in legitimate jobs, and all the others wanting to get into the country will politely turn around and go home.

everything's fine.

Are you implying that all Mexicans who want to come to the USA are drug-runners? You think that the Mexican working washing dishes in the back of your favorite restaurant is secretly a drug-lord millionaire? Or are you simply trying to find the anti-Obama message in this situation, even if you have to look in some very dark places to find it? Come on Bill, you're a smart guy. You can do better than that.

Diana Hignutt
11-18-2009, 08:03 PM
Are they recruiting them to be human trafficed? Who volunteer for that?

William Haskins
11-18-2009, 08:09 PM
Are you implying that all Mexicans who want to come to the USA are drug-runners? You think that the Mexican working washing dishes in the back of your favorite restaurant is secretly a drug-lord millionaire? Or are you simply trying to find the anti-Obama message in this situation, even if you have to look in some very dark places to find it? Come on Bill, you're a smart guy. You can do better than that.

i am saying that the border situation is being inflamed and made worse by US immigration policy.

and i'm not sure who bill is.

Plot Device
11-18-2009, 08:34 PM
Are they recruiting them to be human trafficed? Who volunteer for that?


Probably to carry drugs from Point A to Point B.

To be a lookout.

To use their cell phones to give warnings about police movements.

As far as recruiting kids to be trafficked, I doubt that. They're simply getting extra help in achieving a speed and a smoothness to the movement of their products.



::ETA::

Sorry, Diana, I misread your humorous post and thought it was a serious question along the lines of: "Are they kidnapping these kids to be trafficked?" and that was the true gist of my dumb-ass answer. I need to read those quick and witty one-liners more closely, especially when they are so dry.

Don
11-18-2009, 09:04 PM
$7 an hour working at the mall, or $7000 a month with travel and excitement thrown in.

At least our current drug policy has stimulated employment, just the way Prohibition did back in the 20s.

Kaiser-Kun
11-18-2009, 10:08 PM
all the others wanting to get into the country will politely turn around and go home.

Do you mean all the other illegal inmigrants? Or should I stay inside Mexico, even when I'm a completely legal visitor and will be a completely legal worker in the U.S.?

Please, be careful in this topics. I understand that you were not generalizing mexicans as criminals, but it could give that impression.

William Haskins
11-18-2009, 10:17 PM
i fail to see how you could see me as talking about you if you're a legal visitor/worker/resident.

i have never insinuated that all mexicans are criminals, although -- and follow me here -- if you're an illegal immigrant, you are, by definition, a criminal, in that you are engaging in willful disobedience of the law.

yeah?

William Haskins
11-18-2009, 10:20 PM
i see now that i worded my statement in a clumsy manner.

my (sarcastic) point was that once obama makes all the illegals legal, all the others who wish to enter the US illegally will give up, believing that the amnesty window has closed.

Kaiser-Kun
11-18-2009, 10:20 PM
i fail to see how you could see me as talking about you if you're a legal visitor/worker/resident.

i have never insinuated that all mexicans are criminals, although -- and follow me here -- if you're an illegal immigrant, you are, by definition, a criminal, in that you are engaging in willful disobedience of the law.

yeah?

I completely agree on that. I just think you should watch out comments like:

all the others wanting to get into the country will politely turn around and go home.

It could lead to misunderstanding.

Edit: There we go! Thanks for clearing that up.

William Haskins
11-18-2009, 10:23 PM
incidentally (and i have no way of knowing if this is the case), if you are a mexican national pursuing american citizenship the right way, you should be more pissed off than anyone that you will be kept at the back of the line while people who shit all over the system are sworn in as citizens.

Kaiser-Kun
11-18-2009, 10:26 PM
incidentally (and i have no way of knowing if this is the case), if you are a mexican national pursuing american citizenship the right way, you should be more pissed off than anyone that you will be kept at the back of the line while people who shit all over the system are sworn in as citizens.

I hate illegal inmigration, but I understand that some very desperate people see it as the only way. There is a lot of work needed here. Sadly, there are much, much better salaries there.

William Haskins
11-18-2009, 10:36 PM
I hate illegal inmigration, but I understand that some very desperate people see it as the only way. There is a lot of work needed here. Sadly, there are much, much better salaries there.

yep. i see them all the time in texas and my heart breaks for them.

clintl
11-18-2009, 11:19 PM
We've been over the immigration issue before, and the problem is largely our doing, not theirs. We have an immigration system that does not provide a realistic match between our country's labor needs and the number of immigrants we allow to come here legally.

clintl
11-18-2009, 11:21 PM
A side note- the drug trafficking problem is as much our doing as theirs, also - our policies have been a failure at curbing the demand for illegal drugs. Without that demand, there would be no drug trafficking problem.

Don
11-18-2009, 11:52 PM
Every policy that's been tried in the 35-year history of the DEA has been a failure in terms of curbing the demand. Every future policy will be a failure. The only cure for drug problems is honest education in the effects of the drugs and the value of personal responsibility, and that's not going to happen with government in charge.

blacbird
11-19-2009, 12:52 AM
The only cure for drug problems is honest education in the effects of the drugs and the value of personal responsibility, and that's not going to happen with government in charge.

So . . . it's going to happen with who in charge. Nobody? We await your practical suggestion for improvement.

caw

Don
11-19-2009, 12:59 AM
There are plenty of sources for information about the real effects of drugs, as opposed to the "This is your brain on drugs" fearmongering the government promotes, or the hypocritical stance on the relative safety of various drugs, alcohol included.

There are plenty of sources for information about the value of personal responsibility, and specifically about dealing with drugs responsibly. From government we get "Just Say No!"

I bet you could find schools where both of those issues are taught in concert. Odds are long that it will be a government school.

SPMiller
11-19-2009, 01:03 AM
Granted, Don, you haven't attended a government school in, uh, at least a few years, amirite?

When I attended public schools in the ridiculously conservative Dallas area in the 90s, the general structure of drug education followed Just Say No in the earlier years (unfortunately) and specific information about specific drugs in the later years (better!). Sex ed pretty much mimicked that, incidentally. Whether the plan has changed since then, I don't know.

History_Chick
11-19-2009, 01:32 AM
So ... no matter how you slice it, we have some "border tensions" at the moment, or at least among the locals living on both sides of the divider line.

You couldn't pay me enough to live down near that boarder. My father tells me horror stories about AZ. No thank you. I'm glad I live near the frozen boarder where there are moose and Canadians.

Kaiser-Kun
11-19-2009, 01:41 AM
You couldn't pay me enough to live down near that boarder. My father tells me horror stories about AZ. No thank you. I'm glad I live near the frozen boarder where there are moose and Canadians.

Do tell us more about these horror stories about the evil southern "boarder", please?

escritora
11-19-2009, 01:43 AM
I'm glad I live near the frozen boarder where there are moose and Canadians.

That sounds out of line. Prejudice even.

History_Chick
11-19-2009, 03:32 AM
Do tell us more about these horror stories about the evil southern "border", please?

Just the average stuff. People coming over the board and people disappearing n stuff. Drugs coming into the country. Illegals coming over. I'm not sure where he lives, since I dont talk to him much. Its a very rural place. Not saying everyone is in danger there, but not the place I'd want to live. Not to my taste.


That sounds out of line. Prejudice even.
Seriously? Lame. But there are Canadians to the North. There are Moose up there. And it is cold. But hey think what ya want.