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katiemac
07-19-2005, 03:04 AM
I just finished reading an article on the upcoming The Island. Spielberg sent the script, written by Caspian Tredwell-Owen, to Michael Bay immediately, who accepted the project within hours.

Spielberg's company then shelled out a million dollars to get the project rolling. The next step was to get rid of Owen because as Bay said, "We worked with Caspian for maybe three, four weeks. It didn't work." So he hired two younger screenwriters to take over and start doctoring the script so it would be as action-packed and Michael Bay-ish as possible.

This doesn't actually surprise me. I'm sure screenwriters get "kicked" off their own scripts all the time. What does, however, is that a company would shell out so much money upfront -- one million dollars -- before the script is even greenlighted, and then hire new writers. They had to show their pages to the powers-that-be every day to make sure it was working in the direction they wanted.

So, obviously, changing screenwriters must happen even more often than I thought originally. Owen is still credited with story and the two new guys nabbed screenwriting credits. It reminds me of a novel-turned-film, where the author gets original story credit, but didn't have a hand in the script.

Out of sheer curiosity, how often do you suppose this does happen? And when it comes to story/screen credit, how would you say the paychecks differ? I'm sure it's interchangeable per movie, but would a production company with a future film in mind be more likely to look at the story credit or the screen credits to hire? Obviously in this case the director and screenwriter had different views so I'm guessing it depends on what they want the final movie to feel like.

By the way, I'm not looking into screenwriting professionally. The article happened to jog a few of these questions.

Joe Calabrese
07-20-2005, 08:30 PM
All scripts are rewritten once bought.

If the original writer can't, won't, muffs up the job, or the producer wants a more experienced hand at it, another writer will be hired to jump in. As for credits and cash, whatever is in Owen's contract sticks. Usualy, a writer's pay isn't split up after the fact with other writers. So, if Owen was promised 600,000, that's what he got, even once fired. Unless the contract said otherwise.

Here's the actual credits for the Island.

Caspian Tredwell-Owen (story)

Alex Kurtzman (screenplay) &
Roberto Orci (screenplay) and
Caspian Tredwell-Owen (screenplay)

I don't know the specifics to The Island, but whenever there are multiple screenwriters hired, the original writer almost always gets a story by credit.

The screenplay must have been drastically changed for Owen to get booted down to third billing.

In this order, Alex did the majority of content filmed (my guess over 50%, then Roberto (over 25%) and then Owen (LESS THAN 25%) had the smallest percentage of material that ended up in the film.

Or, they could have taken Owen's concept only and wrote the whole thing from scratch and Owen's reps managed to get him a screenwriter credit in the contract regardless of the outcome.

Chesher Cat
07-21-2005, 10:27 PM
Here's the actual credits for the Island.

Caspian Tredwell-Owen (story)

Alex Kurtzman (screenplay) &
Roberto Orci (screenplay) and
Caspian Tredwell-Owen (screenplay)

I don't know the specifics to The Island, but whenever there are multiple screenwriters hired, the original writer almost always gets a story by credit.


Hey Joe,

I saw a screening of The Island last night. The credits are:

Story by Caspian Tredwell-Owen
Screenplay by Caspian Tredwell-Owen and Alex Kurtzman & Roberto Orci

Kurtzman and Orci spoke after the screening. Sounds like they rewrote most of the dialogue and a lot of the setups and changed some of the characters around. All the over-the-top action scennes can be credited to Michael Bay. They said that the original script (bought from Owen for 1.5 M, according to the moderator) was much darker, more suited to David Fincher. Surprisingly, this is their first feature credit - although they got the Zorro job first, and now they've got a ton of big stuff coming down the pike. But everything is either a sequel or based on existing stuff (Transformers) - but since they've been writing together since high school, I'm curious if they have an original story in them.

Ooops...guess I should have asked them during the Q&A. But I'll assume the answer is "no" since they've set up their own prod co at Dreamworks and are bringing in other writers.

zagoraz
07-21-2005, 10:30 PM
So was the movie any good?

Joe Calabrese
07-21-2005, 10:37 PM
Eh! Luke warm scifi.

katiemac
07-22-2005, 12:06 AM
Thanks for the answers, guys, and the first-hand account, Chesire. I guess I picked a good movie to ask this question.

The article I read (which I originally forgot to mention came from Entertainment Weekly) stated the two who came after the script worked on tv in the past, namely _Alias_.

That's too bad about the film, though. I probably would have been more apt to see it had it remained in its original version.

maestrowork
07-22-2005, 12:11 AM
It's Logan's Run. At least from the reviews I read, it's better than most other Michael Bay's films...

Richard
07-22-2005, 12:45 AM
Actually, it's Parts: The Clonus Horror. Quite blatantly.

Chesher Cat
07-22-2005, 03:50 AM
The article I read (which I originally forgot to mention came from Entertainment Weekly) stated the two who came after the script worked on tv in the past, namely _Alias_.

They started on Hercules, then Xena. JJ Abrams hired them on Alias beacuse of their ability w/female action. Then they got Land of Zorro, the rewrite for The Island, then Mission Impossible 3 (Abrams directing), and now Transformers. In other words, they've hit it big.

The movie is okay - would have been better if Bay hadn't gone crazy on the action sequences which tokk the believabilty away from the clones.