Why was the minimalist workshop moved to poetry crit?

[skelly]

And could it be made a sticky? We don't have near enough of those on the first page of the crit forum.

[moblues]

And could it be made a sticky? We don't have near enough of those on the first page of the crit forum.

I wanted it password protected. Rob is considering making it a sticky. He is undecided as of yet.

Could you drop him a line suggesting this. I agree a sticky would be better.


P.S. Gotta post to your SpecPo thread before I forget everything I learned about this great form.




Mike

[Dichroic]

Another possibility might be to make it a sticky thread in the Chapbook. Advantages:
1) There aren't many there, so it wouldn't block other poets' works from consideration.
2) At this point it seems to have morphed into more of a Show Your Work thread than either a discussion about the form or a place to criticize minimalist poems.
3) You still have password protection that way.

Disadvantages:
Maybe a few less readers. But maybe not - I don't know how many readers the Chapbook gets, vs. the Crit forum, and there seems to be a slightly different crowd. And as it is, the vast bulk of the discussion comes from only two people. Even so, I'd say to leave it in crit if there were criticism going on - but it's mostly just appreciation of the posted work.

[Dichroic]

One more proposal: what about splitting the thread, to leave the earlier discussion on 'what is minimalism' out here, and putting the later SYW stuff in Chapbook?

[moblues]

Chapbook won't work. Too few posts or readers. No matter what tack we take.

This is where you are wrong:

but it's mostly just appreciation of the posted work.

I crit within the thread. Always have. Other do as well.
You keep trying to shunt me away. Why?




Mike

[poetinahat]

It doesn't need to be sticky. As long as people post to it, it stays on the front page.

If you use this thread, subscribe to it, and it's always easy to find.

RE: Chapbook being under-utilised -- if you subscribe to the thread, and if you post to it, traffic isn't an issue. Right? Chapbook would be fine. The thread has plenty of adherents. Doesn't matter which forum it's in; that won't keep people out, right?

I don't understand the allergy to Chapbook. If you put an active thread in there, people won't suddenly stop posting to it. But ideologically, the Minimalist thread is a workshop thread - it's active, not just for display.

I don't see the problem as things stand now - in Critique, and not sticky. I do, however, see a problem with creating more arcane structures and rules for every new workshop thread.

And no, Mike, nobody's trying to shunt anybody away -- that's drawing a long bow there. Thanks.

[Dichroic]

Chapbook won't work. Too few posts or readers. No matter what tack we take.

This is where you are wrong:

but it's mostly just appreciation of the posted work.

I crit within the thread. Always have. Other do as well.
You keep trying to shunt me away. Why?



1. Not me - in fact in several recent discussions I have defended people's right to post often, as long as they "pay their way" by helping others, and you more than do.
2. In fact, the last actual suggestion for a change is about four pages up - and it's from me.
3. I do not feel that sharing your work is in any way inferior to critiquing. These are two different things we do with poems, and we have places for each. I guess the thing to do is figure whether the workshop is still a workshop, or has involved into something different. There's value either way.

I don't generally post to the workshop for the simple reason that I rarely write minimalist work (rather the reverse, in fact). I do sometimes read and comment, both for enjoyment and as part of my own "paying my way".