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Ambrosia
04-28-2009, 10:22 PM
Hi, folks,

I know, not a cheery and playful topic for Office Party. But, hey, it is an important one given what is going on in the world right now.

The 1918 Spanish Flu was a worldwide pandemic. One fifth of the world's population was infected within the 2 years it ran its course. Unlike other flu strains, it was most deadly for people 20 to 40 years of age. In the US alone, an estimated 675,000 people died. Stanford (http://virus.stanford.edu/uda/)

The experts are preparing for a worst case scenario. Estimates under this scenario are 2 million dead, and an inability of services to keep up. AP -- Worst Case (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090428/ap_on_go_ot/us_med_swine_flu_worst_case)

So what things can each of us do to make sure we will be ok if the worst case scenario happens?

Here are my thoughts:

Educate yourself. Know the symptoms of the swine flu. High fever, coughing, aches in a person's bones... if you have these symptoms, stay home. Know the emergency plan of action for your community in case of an outbreak. The US CDC has a pandemic action plan. You might want to look at it if you live in the US to see what the government's actions will be, so you can properly prepare. I don't know what the other countries have for their action plans. Do some research, find out what is planned in your area of the world.
CDC Swine Flu (http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/)
Pandemic Flu (http://www.pandemicflu.gov/)
WHO Pandemic Alert Level (http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian_influenza/phase/en/index.html)

Have at least a two week supply of food on hand. A month's supply is better in case stores are closed down. Also, have a month's supply of any prescription meds on hand. Don't forget your animals -- they need to eat too. Make sure you have all the items you use on a daily basis, toothpaste, toilet paper, kleenex, etc. stocked up. If the pandemic happens you may be asked to remain in your house so make sure you have everything you need on hand to last until you are allowed to go to the store again.

Also have on hand anything you would need if you get sick with the flu. For instance, I don't normally drink soda but when I have the flu Seven-up or Ginger Ale is sometimes the only thing I can hold down. I am getting a case of soda and sticking it in the basement, just in case. It won't go bad, so it makes sense to have it on hand. If I haven't used it by the 4th of July, it can be used for the 4th of July party. :) Surgical masks, and hand sanitizer that is at least 60% alcohol, and a disinfectant for cleaning areas of your home. Bleach is effective and cheap.

Be aware that a person who has come in contact with a person who has the flu will also be quarantined even though they are not ill. Make sure you have plans in place for who will care for a family member who contracts the flu.


Any one else?

MattW
04-28-2009, 10:53 PM
http://is0.okcupid.com/mt_pics/773/773812361575599080/5349989821747660792-fp.jpg

This is all I've got.

Now I need to watch out for pigs and/or pig zombies?

veinglory
04-28-2009, 11:42 PM
Wash your hands. Avoid entering areas where the disease is poorly controlled. If you must enter these areas wear a mask. When a vaccine becomes available, get one.

That is really it.

the odds are this will decline with summer and reappear in the new flu season, so have the shot before then.

semilargeintestine
04-28-2009, 11:51 PM
Stupid pigs giving everyone the flu. I'm all paranoid now.

cray
04-28-2009, 11:52 PM
wash your pigs thoroughly.

Ambrosia
04-28-2009, 11:52 PM
Veinglory, as far as I know there is not a vaccine for this strain of the flu. What shot were you referring to?

Matt... nice survival kit. :D

Kitty Pryde
04-28-2009, 11:53 PM
I have to commute by bus. I think I either need to wear one of those nifty hazmat suits, or else rig up a sanitizing gel shower to decon myself when i get home from work...I'm really curious to see if people start wearing those face masks on their commute.

Voyager
04-29-2009, 12:04 AM
I have to commute by bus. I think I either need to wear one of those nifty hazmat suits, or else rig up a sanitizing gel shower to decon myself when i get home from work...I'm really curious to see if people start wearing those face masks on their commute.
They're already doing the mask thing here in Guadalajara, and Mel is starting her own, onereallyscaredlookingwoman campaign in Zihuatanejo. Me, I'm waiting til I can get one to match my lime green Converse.

cray
04-29-2009, 12:06 AM
They're already doing the mask thing here in Guadalajara, and Mel is starting her own, onereallyscaredlookingwoman campaign in Zihuatanejo. Me, I'm waiting til I can get one to match my lime green Converse.


just stay home, kiddo. we need you. you're one of a kind!




well, when i say 'you' i really mean 'your lime green converse.'
:D



eta: hello voy :)

Kathleen42
04-29-2009, 12:28 AM
Veinglory, as far as I know there is not a vaccine for this strain of the flu. What shot were you referring to?

Matt... nice survival kit. :D

The flu shot each year is different and is based on the strains which they think are most likely to pose a problem in that given year so there is a good chance, if they are able to create a vaccine for it, that it would be included in next year's shot (if it's not rushed ahead).

I don't mean to downplay the situation but I'm almost as concerned about people panicking as the virus itself. The media is throwing around references to 1918 with merry abandonment.

Voyager
04-29-2009, 12:31 AM
just stay home, kiddo. we need you. you're one of a kind!




well, when i say 'you' i really mean 'your lime green converse.'
:D



eta: hello voy :)Hey, hey, Cray. Feel my forehead, do I have a fever? :D

Wayne K
04-29-2009, 12:49 AM
I'd rather shop for a coffin than listen to one word the media has to say about this. I don't believe it, it's that simple. SARS was the next pandemic and them Avian flu. I'd rather die than sit around afraid all the time.

Voyager
04-29-2009, 12:52 AM
I'd rather shop for a coffin than listen to one word the media has to say about this. I don't believe it, it's that simple. SARS was the next pandemic and them Avian flu. I'd rather die than sit around afraid all the time.
I agree. They are causing such a commotion here in Guadalajara, yet they have not one confirmed case of influenza in the entire state of Jalisco. It's bad enough that they've shut down the school and my kid has no classes until at least the sixth, I'll be damned if we're going to lock ourselves up in the house on top of that. She'll make me nuts.

Ambrosia
04-29-2009, 12:59 AM
The flu shot each year is different and is based on the strains which they think are most likely to pose a problem in that given year so there is a good chance, if they are able to create a vaccine for it, that it would be included in next year's shot (if it's not rushed ahead).

I don't mean to downplay the situation but I'm almost as concerned about people panicking as the virus itself. The media is throwing around references to 1918 with merry abandonment.
Currently the experts can't plan for the spread because they have not been able to get the information from the Mexican government they need to figure out how the flu was contracted in the first place or its vector for transmission. They need more information than they currently have to create a vaccine for it, and a vaccine at the minimum takes 6 months to make.

I am less concerned about people panicking. People are in denial. I have noted, here in the US at least, a definite tendency to act as if there are no threats at all to worry about. The US government has issued a recommendation to the entire US populace to have a 3 day emergency pack on hand at all times in case of a disruption of services. Who does it? I imagine if you asked someone walking down the street they would not have heard of such a thing. I live just outside the radiation zone (a few houses away -- like radiation can read, uh huh) should the local nuclear power plant melt down or have a 'release'. People are sent information in the mail every year what to do in the event of a meltdown and what to have on hand, just in case. I could walk up the street and talk to my neighbors now. Most would not have a clue.

Encouraging one another to do what each person can to be prepared in the event of an emergency does not spread fear. It makes common sense to do what you can do to take care of your own needs and your family's needs in case of an emergency. The government can't do it. Just look at the people in New Orleans and the gulf coast. Those people are still suffering.

quickWit
04-29-2009, 01:02 AM
I think we just need more cowbell.

brokenfingers
04-29-2009, 01:04 AM
I have only one sage bit of advice:

If you see a zombie - RUN!

Voyager
04-29-2009, 01:10 AM
We own a ranch north of the city in a rather isolated town called Mexicano. It has pond stocked with fish, fruit trees, a well and a generator and we've stockpiled it with lots of canned goods and potable water. As my grandmother's been saying for days, if it's your time to go, it's your time to go, but that doesn't mean you have to lay down in front of oncoming traffic.

Kathleen42
04-29-2009, 01:10 AM
Encouraging one another to do what each person can to be prepared in the event of an emergency does not spread fear. It makes common sense to do what you can do to take care of your own needs and your family's needs in case of an emergency. The government can't do it. Just look at the people in New Orleans and the gulf coast. Those people are still suffering.

That's not really related to my point, though. My point is that the media are drawing comparisons to a pandemic and parallels to 1918 and are bombarding people with it constantly. The ratio of coverage it is receiving (at least in Canada) seems disproportionate.

I'm not saying don't encourage people to be prepared I'm just saying that the media is treating this like a feeding frenzy.

melaniehoo
04-29-2009, 01:28 AM
I've seen people wearing masks here, but mostly workers who have to deal with a lot of people (bus drivers, tellers at the banks, etc). I'm relieved that people are even aware it's going on -- news takes a while to filter in here and I felt like I was living in a time warp yesterday.

That said, I am going to stock up a bit tomorrow because people here (in my town) tend to overreact once they get scared.

eta: Oh, and when you look at a map of where the cases have been found, there is NOTHING on the west half of Mexico, where Voyager and I are, although it does appear to be closing in on her. Our school are closed for two weeks as well.

Ambrosia
04-29-2009, 01:30 AM
We own a ranch north of the city in a rather isolated town called Mexicano. It has pond stocked with fish, fruit trees, a well and a generator and we've stockpiled it with lots of canned goods and potable water. As my grandmother's been saying for days, if it's your time to go, it's your time to go, but that doesn't mean you have to lay down in front of oncoming traffic.That sounds lovely, Voyager. I want to go fishing so bad! lol! Your grandmother is a wise woman. :)

That's not really related to my point, though. My point is that the media are drawing comparisons to a pandemic and parallels to 1918 and are bombarding people with it constantly. The ratio of coverage it is receiving (at least in Canada) seems disproportionate.

I'm not saying don't encourage people to be prepared I'm just saying that the media is treating this like a feeding frenzy.I have a tendency to tune the media out so I haven't been paying attention to the coverage. I am watching the CDC and other government sites mostly, and the occasional article coming across from the AP.

The media is taking their cue from the government agencies they are talking to on this one. Two days ago President Obama declared a public health emergency for the US after only 20 confirmed cases of the swine flu. We are now up to 65 confirmed cases. The World Health Organization has raised the threat level to 4, the first time since they came up with the measurement, and the EU has issued travel advisories against nonessential travel to Mexico and certain parts of the US. The US has issued travel advisories against nonessential travel to Mexico. The US Government is treating this flu as if it will emerge into a full blown pandemic. The media has no choice but to react.

BenPanced
04-29-2009, 01:30 AM
Caution? Yeah.

Diligence? Sure.

Panic? Dang it! The one thing I excel at and I'm not supposed to do it!

Maryn
04-29-2009, 01:54 AM
I've heard from two sources now that the masks cannot stop this particular virus. It's likely to stop others and you may be healthier for having worn it, but if you are coughed on by someone who's carrying swine flu virus, the mask will offer no additional protection.

I think the tendency to panic has grown unwieldly as media has become more available. When do we barricade our homes, take our kids out of school, load up on not only groceries and meds but ammo, lest our neighbors fail to have prepared?

It's always sensible to have food and toiletry basics, including some complete meals, stockpiled and to rotate the older stuff out as you replace it with new. It's always a good idea to wash your hands several times a day, especially before preparing food or eating. It's always smart to stay away from crowds when something nasty is going around. It's always the thing to do to stay home from work or school if you don't feel well, and to avoid those who appear to be clearly ill.

The expectation that this illness, while serious, is of pandemic proportion seems way premature. Pandemics do happen, but we have no more reason to believe swine flu is pandemic than we did with SARS, or Mad Cow, or the Asian flu of the 80s.

Common sense, people. Common sense.

Maryn, a calming influence

scarletpeaches
04-29-2009, 02:03 AM
I'm not worried at all. This is another one of those "ZOMG WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!" news items that won't come to anything.

BenPanced
04-29-2009, 02:11 AM
Right now?

231 confirmed cases.

World wide.

This isn't the Andromeda Strain scenario playing out in the media right now, if you ask me.

Manix
04-29-2009, 02:12 AM
I'd rather shop for a coffin than listen to one word the media has to say about this. I don't believe it, it's that simple. SARS was the next pandemic and them Avian flu. I'd rather die than sit around afraid all the time.

QFT

BenPanced
04-29-2009, 02:15 AM
I take that back: 99 confirmed cases.

See?

scarletpeaches
04-29-2009, 02:16 AM
Clearly, we're all going to die.

Maryn
04-29-2009, 02:30 AM
Can I make a list of who should go first? Can I? Can I?

BenPanced
04-29-2009, 02:30 AM
There are...57...

MattW
04-29-2009, 02:37 AM
There are...57...57? Now we know who is behind this.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iNn6an-1Z4I/RhsIcgn6wfI/AAAAAAAAAAk/WyGhvOPEWU8/s320/Heinz57.jpg

semilargeintestine
04-29-2009, 02:38 AM
At work someone was going around telling everyone that there were 300 confirmed deaths. I thought I saw that it was only 89 (this was Monday, so more may have been confirmed). Figures. The panic is always worse than the actual problem.

veinglory
04-29-2009, 02:39 AM
Veinglory, as far as I know there is not a vaccine for this strain of the flu. What shot were you referring to?

Matt... nice survival kit. :D

By the beginning of the next flu season there will be one, in six months at the longest.

veinglory
04-29-2009, 02:42 AM
Right now?

231 confirmed cases.

World wide.

This isn't the Andromeda Strain scenario playing out in the media right now, if you ask me.

One problem with a pandemic is

1) The fact that the last few were mild doesn't mean the next one will be (think Katrina)
2) Lack of precautions actually increases the risk
3) All pandemics start slowly, if you wait for massive contagion it is to late to take precautions.

Also the backlog may be in the confirmation not the cases, North America has only two labs that can do this, most countries have none.

That said, summer alone will give this outbreak a lowish peak--plan for its return next season and be prepared.

Ambrosia
04-29-2009, 02:51 AM
Ya all are missing my point.

It is not whether this is the next worldwide pandemic or not. It may be. It may not be. Doesn't matter. My point is that everyone should be prepared with enough food and essentials to get themselves through a shut down of services regardless what the disaster.

Currently, it is a possible pandemic. Everyone should be prepared to handle their own little section of it should it hit their section of the world. Know what to look for with the sickness and know what the steps are to act on if you get this flu, should you be so unlucky. Better you know and act, than have the government act for you.

The next disaster could be an earthquake, a hurricane, aliens shooting all the satellites from the sky... whatever. But being prepared with enough food and resources for yourself and your immediate family takes you out of the victim role, relieves stress on the limited resources of the government and aide organizations, and may just save your life. That is my point.

scarletpeaches
04-29-2009, 02:53 AM
...Then again, panic could give you a heart attack.

I'm with Wayne on this one.

clockwork
04-29-2009, 02:53 AM
"Doctor, without knowing exactly what the situation is, would you say it's time for people to crack each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside?"

"Yes I would, Kent."

While we're all waiting for the 24 hour news networks to make more shiny graphics, terrifying theme music and also update their world maps with great swaths of contaminated dead red zones, (all in the name of inducing pant-shitting fear a wider public knowledge, of course) let's all play the home version!

Pandemic 2 (http://www.crazymonkeygames.com/Pandemic-2.html)

(it really is a good game, I've been playing it for months)

ETA: word of warning, Madagascar's an absolute bitch to infect.

backslashbaby
04-29-2009, 02:54 AM
Absolutely, no panic. And I used to think it was a bit much to have food and water, etc, stockpiled. But OTOH, I've been stuck at home sans power for over a week and no way to drive anywhere many times (big snow/ice in the South), and everyone who lives here knows you need a way to eat and your meds and things because of that alone.

After Katrina, shelves of some items were completely bare, and we had a gas panic because nobody knew when the stations could get more. Not driving seems absurd, but there you go - no gas, no drive :) That went on longer than I might have expected.

So, yes. For many panic-free reasons, I think it's good to have supplies of what you need & like on hand. Weeks worth, as it turns out, because of the way things are stocked combined with where they are coming from.

Hygeine to help with anything going around is a great idea and doesn't hurt anyone.

-- There are masks that do help more, but you pretty much have to get your own.

-- This bug is different because it is new and mutated/mutating. The common flus may kill more folks a year here by an astounding number so far, but unfortunately with the nature of mutations it's the unpredictability & lack of immunity that's the problem.

And a flu that kills that age group concerns me (a good friend's very healthy brother died at 25 of the pneumonia that has regained the ability to do that over recent years).

MattW
04-29-2009, 03:03 AM
If anyone needs it, I have porn stockpiled, and would be willing to trade for food, water or ammo.

Ambrosia
04-29-2009, 03:15 AM
If anyone needs it, I have porn stockpiled, and would be willing to trade for food, water or ammo.You may have no worries then, Matt. :ROFL:

Sweetleaf
04-29-2009, 03:20 AM
I can't tell you what to do, but I can tell you what not to do:

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt206/overtired/pig.jpg

Tornadoboy
04-29-2009, 03:37 AM
I guess Google Maps has starting tracking confirmed and suspected swine flu incidents, here's the link:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&ll=32.639375,-110.390625&spn=24.413424,39.4628

Purple markers are confirmed, pink markers are suspected, yellow is confirmed false alarms and anything without a dot in the middle is a fatality. Also I recommend that you go to the the Center for Disease Control's (www.CDC.gov/swineflu) website and check out their twitter page (http://twitter.com/cdcemergency), where they post their latest official statements.

Just doing my humble part to spread fear and panic. :D

Actually I work for public schools, so I may have very little to laugh about soon. :(

wordmonkey
04-29-2009, 04:10 AM
I've started eating seven pounds of bacon every day.

I figure it'll either give me some degree of immunity or I'll at least have done my part to reduce the swine population and thus diminish the threat that way.

(Sidebar: Can anyone else hear my arteries hardening?)

Ambrosia
04-29-2009, 04:19 AM
I can't tell you what to do, but I can tell you what not to do:

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt206/overtired/pig.jpg
You know what bothers me most about this picture? It's not the kid licking the pigs snout. It is the person behind the camera taking a picture instead of grabbing the kid.

Sweetleaf
04-29-2009, 05:49 AM
Ambrosia, you are so right! My kids would be off their feet and over my shoulder before they ever got that close :D

Delhomeboy
04-29-2009, 06:17 AM
It's funny how a swine flu with 100 or so cases can cause such angst, while the regular, everyday flu is stilling killing tens of thousands every year, and nobody bats an eyelash.

Ambrosia
04-29-2009, 07:46 AM
I am less than happy. I just heard on the news there are 3 suspected cases in my county, and 3 others in two adjoining counties.

I better go get that case of soda.

Sweetleaf
04-29-2009, 09:50 AM
There's 10 in my neighbourhood - school football team just got back from Mexico.

Can't say I'm particularly worried though. Looks like it's being handled to me.

Dichroic
04-29-2009, 10:31 AM
I'm not so convinced that SARS was overyped. From what I've read it was a serious epidemic of a dangerous disease that was contained through smart and determined public health practices. I think the perception that it was a big fizzle is mostly because we Americans tend to forget that what happens in the rest of the world is important too. In Taiwan, for example, the international airport screens all entrants for fever (infrared camera - you can see your face in IF on a TV screen as you pass, and they have people at a deak watching for visitors who show up as unusually light (=hot)) and people wear facemasks when they're ill.

I heard that facemasks won't help IF you are in close contact with someone who is infected - but they still may provide some safety for casual contacts. This swine flu is actually not as serious a disease as SARS (much lower mortality rate - at least so far) but here's hoping the publich health measures are just as effective.

bettielee
04-29-2009, 11:32 AM
3 cases in Sacramento. (3 hours from me) 2 in Marin county (1 hour from me). That's close enough.

I'm boarding up my windows and killing all zombie pigs. Seriously.

Now, 20-25 specimens being tested! Just on the news.

Ambrosia
04-29-2009, 04:58 PM
Even if your neighbor next door has it, it is no reason to panic. Just make sure you have what you need on hand to make it through a couple weeks sequestered at home, if it comes to that.

I have to go out today and get a few items. Then, I should be good here.

Hey, folks, remember we are writers. Forced to stay home for two weeks... How could we could use our time? Hmmmm? ;)

Wayne K
04-29-2009, 05:23 PM
Hey, folks, remember we are writers. Forced to stay home for two weeks... How could we could use our time? Hmmmm? ;)
Posting?

scarletpeaches
04-29-2009, 05:30 PM
Quivering behind the door brandishing a baseball bat in case the swinezombies get us?

GeorgeK
04-29-2009, 05:33 PM
hand sanitizer that is at least 60% alcohol,

The important thing to note about hand sanitizers is that they are not a replacement for soap and water. The manufacturers want to sell more so they say that it is. However, they should be relegated to emergency use, not routine (keep some in your car, your purse etc). When used frequently they will dry out the skin and then the hands chap forming microscopic (or worse) cuts which allow blood to the surface and feed the bacteria on your skin. They will actually increase the bacterial count and in a healthcare setting will increase the risk of wound infections.

"Oh but I keep a jug of moisturizer at the desk," some will say.

The problem is they get colonized with bacteria.

GeorgeK
04-29-2009, 05:42 PM
Currently, it is a possible pandemic.


No, pan just means it is in all areas being monitored (which one might be able to argue) and epidemic means the problem is occurring in statistically significant numbers greater than the expected, which it isn't (yet). It is possibly an epidemic in Mexico City, but nowhere else. To call it pandemic at this point is hype. I doubt this bug will do it, but eventually something will.


Everyone should be prepared to handle their own little section of it should it hit their section of the world. Know what to look for with the sickness and know what the steps are to act on if you get this flu, should you be so unlucky. Better you know and act, than have the government act for you.

The next disaster could be an earthquake, a hurricane, aliens shooting all the satellites from the sky... whatever. But being prepared with enough food and resources for yourself and your immediate family takes you out of the victim role, relieves stress on the limited resources of the government and aide organizations, and may just save your life. That is my point.

and that is a good point.

GeorgeK
04-29-2009, 05:49 PM
You know what bothers me most about this picture? It's not the kid licking the pigs snout. It is the person behind the camera taking a picture instead of grabbing the kid.

Not to mention how inadequate that fence is. Pigs are strong, damn strong.

Namatu
04-29-2009, 08:14 PM
I'm not that stocked up on food in case of an emergency so maybe I should consider buying a couple nonperishables, but what I like about emergency preparedness is the go bag. The bag that holds essential items, a change of clothes, some money, and, when needed in a hurry, can be picked up when you go running away from swinezombies or other such threats. Plus, say it with me: "go bag." It's cool.

Maryn
04-29-2009, 09:35 PM
Go, bag! Hey, wait--take me with you!

scarletpeaches
04-29-2009, 09:40 PM
Is it any coincidence that the first three and last two letters of the word 'pandemic' spell out what yous guys are doing?

BenPanced
04-29-2009, 09:44 PM
It's hard to not freak out when we're coming into tornado season, which is coinciding with this. After enough emergencies over the years where we've almost come up short, I've started to stock the pantry. Ant vs. Grasshopper. Still, I'm maintaining a bit of sanity; I lost more sleep last night because somebody on teh intarwebz was wrong than I did over the current health concerns.

brokenfingers
04-29-2009, 09:48 PM
I'm ready. I've gone out and stocked up on garlic, wooden stakes and bought more crucifixes.

melaniehoo
04-29-2009, 09:51 PM
Oranges were on sale $.80 pesos/kilo. At least someone's trying to keep us healthy instead of panicking.

Kitty Pryde
04-29-2009, 09:52 PM
lol! Oranges Versus Pigs: Ultimate Throwdown South Of The Border!

Ambrosia
04-29-2009, 11:54 PM
Is it any coincidence that the first three and last two letters of the word 'pandemic' spell out what yous guys are doing?
I'm not panicking. I am acting. There is a huge difference.

melaniehoo
04-30-2009, 01:08 AM
This (http://dlisted.com/node/31823) will make a few of you laugh. Site is a little NFSWish, but not that page.

Inky
04-30-2009, 01:47 AM
See, once they began using the word 'pandemic' I had a hard time keeping a straight face.

Bush had this lame way of stretching the first portion of the word out, then 'demic' was said as if he was on crack...not to mention, in one speech, he must have said the word 45 times!

PaaaaaannnnnnDEMIC!

For such a serious situation, I wish they'd find a different word.

rhymegirl
04-30-2009, 01:53 AM
I'm just living my life.

Ambrosia
04-30-2009, 01:57 AM
This just hit the Net about 10 minutes ago:

GENEVA (Reuters) – World Health Organization director-general Dr. Margaret Chan raised the pandemic threat awareness level to 5 out of 6 on Wednesday, meaning the world is at imminent risk of a pandemic from H1N1 swine flu.

"I have decided to raise the level of influenza pandemic alert from phase 4 to phase 5," Chan told a news briefing.

scarletpeaches
04-30-2009, 01:58 AM
I'm just living my life.

Panic, damn you - panic! We're all gonna die!!!!!

Susie
04-30-2009, 02:23 AM
That's why we should all eat :Chocolate: now! :)

scarletpeaches
04-30-2009, 02:24 AM
Now that's an order I have no problem obeying.

*reaches for kitkats*

Namatu
04-30-2009, 05:09 AM
I've been eating chocolate all day. Doesn't it keep the swine flu away? I'm healthy! It must work.

brokenfingers
04-30-2009, 05:10 AM
I'm on my porch with a shotgun. First person who approaches my house sneezing or coughing gets it.

scarletpeaches
04-30-2009, 05:12 AM
I'm stocked up on Colin Farrell DVDs. If I die, I die. At least I'll go with a smile on my face.

BenPanced
04-30-2009, 09:03 AM
If I die, well, I feel sorry for the poor abstrads who have to sort through my personal effects.

BenPanced
04-30-2009, 09:11 AM
Anybody else feeling all psychosomaticky right now?

backslashbaby
04-30-2009, 01:45 PM
Anybody else feeling all psychosomaticky right now?

Yes :D I'm having my usual pollen/weather-induced flu-like illness, but having folks quarantined in secret locations here in NC kinda makes me go hmmmm.

Ambrosia
04-30-2009, 04:30 PM
Yes :D I'm having my usual pollen/weather-induced flu-like illness, but having folks quarantined in secret locations here in NC kinda makes me go hmmmm.
Quarantined in secret locations? Now that sounds scary.

Julie Worth
04-30-2009, 04:39 PM
It's funny how a swine flu with 100 or so cases can cause such angst, while the regular, everyday flu is stilling killing tens of thousands every year, and nobody bats an eyelash.

People are such sheep. The swine flu killed one person in 1976, and the government got so rattled that they immunized 40 million Americans with a vaccine that killed and paralyzed hundreds. But did they learn anything?

backslashbaby
04-30-2009, 05:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by backslashbaby
Yes I'm having my usual pollen/weather-induced flu-like illness, but having folks quarantined in secret locations here in NC kinda makes me go hmmmm.

Quarantined in secret locations? Now that sounds scary.
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They just aren't telling the cities or regions in NC where the spooky suspects are located ;) They could be next door!

Actually, I danced all night during the requisite time period with several Latinos from various countries. Didn't exactly ask if anyone had just returned from Mexico ;)

A fifth of our population here is coming from and going to Mexico regurlarly :) Unless the weather stops it, it's just a matter of time before NC sees it, of course.

Wayne K
04-30-2009, 05:58 PM
I ran in circles all morning screaming "Oh noes!"

Considering my hangover I'm going to post this in Goals and Accomplishments as well.

rhymegirl
04-30-2009, 06:28 PM
I recall we had some cases of meningitis in our area back when all my kids were in school. The panic started and they wanted all the kids to get a shot. We chose not to do that (since it was voluntary). There was no massive outbreak as it turned out. I've witnessed the way people panic.

BenPanced
04-30-2009, 07:47 PM
I've been preparing by practicing running in circles while flailing my arms over my head and screaming. Good for the glutes.

rhymegirl
04-30-2009, 08:52 PM
I've been preparing by practicing running in circles while flailing my arms over my head and screaming. Good for the glutes.

You forgot one thing, Ben. You're supposed to yell, "The sky is falling, the sky is falling!"

BenPanced
04-30-2009, 10:35 PM
10 things movies teach us about virus outbreaks! (http://denofgeek.com/movies/242804/10_things_movies_teach_us_about_virus_outbreaks.ht ml)

dclary
04-30-2009, 10:42 PM
I'm stocking a ton of pork chop Shake-n-Bake.

vrabinec
04-30-2009, 11:49 PM
Those ladies who are yet to be deflowered, you don't want to die a virgin, do you? My number's 696-969-6969...

wordmonkey
05-01-2009, 12:04 AM
The Aporkalypse is coming!

Namatu
05-01-2009, 01:24 AM
http://doihaveswineflu.org/

AnonymousWriter
05-01-2009, 02:26 AM
http://doihaveswineflu.org/

Oh my god, do I really?

I can't have, I washed my hands! :(

Ambrosia
05-01-2009, 06:37 PM
"The CDC confirmed 109 cases Thursday, and state officials confirm 22 more. Cases now are confirmed in New York, Texas, California, South Carolina, Kansas, Massachusetts, Indiana, Ohio, Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, Delaware, Maine, Colorado, Georgia and Minnesota."

Vaccine promised (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090501/ap_on_re_us/us_med_swine_flu_us)

I wonder what today will hold.

Tornadoboy
05-01-2009, 09:44 PM
I frankly have no *bleep'n* idea what to believe anymore.

Just 3 days ago I was hearing from the CDC and WHO that there were 150+ confirmed dead in Mexico with hospitals reporting over 2000 cases of severe pneumonia, and that the virus was a new, never before seen hybrid of pig, avian and human flu. They we doing everything but calling it "Captain Trips"

Turn the clock ahead to now...

WHO: 7 confirmed dead in Mexico, not 150, not 70, BUT 7! That we're up to 140+ US cases but they're all mild, and this flu is not so unusual and contains only pig flu DNA.

Oh but by the way...

ALERT LEVEL RAISED TO 5, AAAAAAAAGH WE'RE F**KED!!! END IT ALL NOW! STRANGLE THE PETS! GIVE YOUR KIDS HEMLOCK TO DRINK! SHOOT YOURSELVES IN THE HEAD WITH NAILGUNS!

So which is it oh highly paid government "experts?" Is this a total non-issue or is it time for all of us to make frudge brownies in our pants? :rant:

Namatu
05-01-2009, 09:47 PM
I'm very sad to hear that Egypt is killing all of its pigs. :(

scarletpeaches
05-01-2009, 09:49 PM
I'm not. It's a Muslim country; why do they have pigs anyway?

Besides, that means they'll have shitloads of bacon butties going begging. I know where I'm taking my next holiday.

Tornadoboy
05-01-2009, 10:00 PM
No kidding, it's a Muslim country, how many can they have? Are they just going to rip down a bunch of Porky Pig posters?

BenPanced
05-01-2009, 10:08 PM
I'm not. It's a Muslim country; why do they have pigs anyway?
For the Catholics and other non-Muslims that live there.

scarletpeaches
05-01-2009, 11:03 PM
For the Catholics and other non-Muslims that live there.

It's probably those bastard infidels that brought in the damn pig flu!

clockwork
05-01-2009, 11:12 PM
I frankly have no *bleep'n* idea what to believe anymore.

Just 3 days ago I was hearing from the CDC and WHO that there were 150+ confirmed dead in Mexico with hospitals reporting over 2000 cases of severe pneumonia, and that the virus was a new, never before seen hybrid of pig, avian and human flu. They we doing everything but calling it "Captain Trips"

Turn the clock ahead to now...

WHO: 7 confirmed dead in Mexico, not 150, not 70, BUT 7! That we're up to 140+ US cases but they're all mild, and this flu is not so unusual and contains only pig flu DNA.

Oh but by the way...

ALERT LEVEL RAISED TO 5, AAAAAAAAGH WE'RE F**KED!!! END IT ALL NOW! STRANGLE THE PETS! GIVE YOUR KIDS HEMLOCK TO DRINK! SHOOT YOURSELVES IN THE HEAD WITH NAILGUNS!

So which is it oh highly paid government "experts?" Is this a total non-issue or is it time for all of us to make frudge brownies in our pants? :rant:

The difference in numbers is the difference between suspected and confirmed cases. FYI, there are 9 confirmed deaths in Mexico. But trying to keep track of them at these levels is going to be a maddening exercise for us, the general public. It's not worth it at this stage.

As for the alert level, it's a category of classification based on something very simple; a human-to-human spread of the virus in two or more countries in one WHO region. That's all. And it's as much a bureaucratic announcement as a healthcare one; certain plans and procedures can't actually be activated until the level goes up.

For the easiest, most guff-free way to understand the latest developments, visit http://www.who.int/en/. They're not going to spin or speculate, they're only going to publish what they know and what it means. Stay informed, employ good personal hygiene, sleep well, eat well, exercise. There's not much else you can do, nor is there really anything else you're supposed to be doing.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h134/clockwork9/flu.jpg

BenPanced
05-01-2009, 11:17 PM
And please don't talk to me about the current health crisis while you're licking your fingertips to separate pages that are stuck together.

vrabinec
05-01-2009, 11:18 PM
Pages stuck together? Is Playboy covering the crisis then?

scarletpeaches
05-01-2009, 11:21 PM
AAACHOO!!!

*gets snot all over thread*

Tornadoboy
05-01-2009, 11:22 PM
The difference in numbers is the difference between suspected and confirmed cases. FYI, there are 9 confirmed deaths in Mexico. But trying to keep track of them at these levels is going to be a maddening exercise for us, the general public. It's not worth it at this stage.

As for the alert level, it's a category of classification based on something very simple; a human-to-human spread of the virus in two or more countries in one WHO region. That's all. And it's as much a bureaucratic announcement as a healthcare one; certain plans and procedures can't actually be activated until the level goes up.

For the easiest, most guff-free way to understand the latest developments, visit http://www.who.int/en/. They're not going to spin or speculate, they're only going to publish what they know and what it means. Stay informed, employ good personal hygiene, sleep well, eat well, exercise. There's not much else you can do, nor is there really anything else you're supposed to be doing.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h134/clockwork9/flu.jpg

I guess you're right, I'm going to go home, pop in the movies The Stand or Fukkatsu No Hi and try to calm down. :D

In all seriousness I guess if nothing else this will be a good reality check for us all on our personal preparedness for such a disaster, I know it has been for me.

BenPanced
05-02-2009, 01:59 AM
In all seriousness I guess if nothing else this will be a good reality check for us all on our personal preparedness for such a disaster, I know it has been for me.
We needed to check ours at home, anyway; again, we're heading into tornado season and we've been slammed with a few emergencies over the years.

In other news, the current strain doesn't have the "killer" genes the 1918 strain did. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/med_swine_flu_virus;_ylt=Avq0WQVfz_2CuN20RU0uefpa2 4cA;_ylu=X3oDMTJtZWFpbGJjBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkwNTAxL 21lZF9zd2luZV9mbHVfdmlydXMEY3BvcwMzBHBvcwMzBHNlYwN 5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDY2RjbmV3dmlydXNs) I really had to dig to find this story; I'd seen it announced on the news and information monitors we have near the elevators at work. I guess it violates the first rule of journalism: "If it bleeds, it leads."

But we're still all gonna die.

ETA: About as serious as a regular seasonal strain? (http://kai03.qwest.com/WindowsLive/Media/News/NewsDetail.aspx?cat=National&id=D97TM3R81@news.ap.org&client=gadget&qid=ED3D5772EF6CEEBF16F59E1FFFFFFFFF)