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maestrowork
01-20-2009, 03:49 PM
Happy Inauguration Day.

What are you doing today?

I'll be traveling, mostly, so I'll probably miss everything until I have time later to watch the news coverage. But I'm rather excited. To me, it's time to leave the past few years behind and look forward. I don't know if Obama is going to be a good president, but I'm willing to give him a chance. He's going to have a lot of problems, burdens, and a huge mess right off the bat -- no honeymoon for him at all, and the expectations are high (and criticisms would be sharp and probably unfair as well). Some will want him to fail, but hopefully many more will want and help him succeed. The future is hard to predict, but at least to many, hope is here.

Still, this is history, folks. This is bigger than Obama, bigger than us. I know this sounds hokey to some folks, but as a minority in this country, I feel extra proud of how far our country has come. It has been a great feeling in the past few months how many folks, young and old, white or black or Asian or Latino, etc. and poor and rich have come together. That's the America I love and hope to see.

KTC
01-20-2009, 03:51 PM
I will miss all the live coverage too. I will be glued to the TV tonight. I am sick with pride, Ray...and I am not even American.

James81
01-20-2009, 03:56 PM
What time does he give his speech?

scarletpeaches
01-20-2009, 03:57 PM
I'm stupidly excited about watching it live, later. A honeymoon period is nothing more than that and will end within months, probably weeks, but...I'll enjoy it while it lasts.

scarletpeaches
01-20-2009, 03:58 PM
What time does he give his speech?

Oath at noon, followed by a twenty-minute address, according to UK media. Works out at 5pm here.

William Haskins
01-20-2009, 04:35 PM
i'll be working so i can pay taxes for his $800 billion bailout plan.

StevenJ
01-20-2009, 04:42 PM
I just hope that President Obama and his family remain safe & secure throughout the day (and the whole of his Presidency).

smoothseas
01-20-2009, 05:13 PM
I just hope that President Obama and his family remain safe & secure throughout the day (and the whole of his Presidency).


Your mouth to God's ear....

Will watch - hopefully.

William Haskins
01-20-2009, 05:14 PM
let's also hope the american people are safe and secure throughout his presidency.

Noah Body
01-20-2009, 05:52 PM
lol

Enzo
01-20-2009, 06:01 PM
His speech is on at around 1:30 am in East Asia, live on TV. But there are very few things I would stay up that late for to watch, and anyway, the whole thing will be rebroadcast over and over again tomorrow, so ...

I lost my enthusiasm for politicians of any stripe a long time ago, but I still hope he does well. Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if one year from now, he were deeply unpopular. Curing an economic crisis like this will take a long time and a lot of pain.

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01-20-2009, 06:09 PM
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i'll be working so i can pay taxes for his $800 billion bailout plan.

Somebody's gotta work today, glad it's you and not me :). Seriously, I'll catch part of the festivities on television, was going to watch with a big crowd at a local gathering, but the thought of traffic, parking (no parking, that is), prevented me from doing so. Still, yes, I'm optimistic for the time-being.

Sheryl Nantus
01-20-2009, 06:10 PM
for $150 million I want a lot of fireworks.

just saying.

Jcomp
01-20-2009, 06:23 PM
i'll be working so i can pay taxes for his $800 billion bailout plan.

You know if you stopped working you wouldn't have to pay taxes. And might even get helped on the bailout plan.

Just a thought...

rhymegirl
01-20-2009, 07:00 PM
I'm going to watch at noontime, Ray.

It's a very exciting day and I am willing to give the man a chance, just as you are.

Snowstorm
01-20-2009, 07:25 PM
Glued to the TV until after the parade. This is SO exciting! The motorcade just left the White House en route to the Capital.

Norman D Gutter
01-20-2009, 07:27 PM
i'll be working so i can pay taxes for his $800 billion bailout plan.
Me too.

Christine N.
01-20-2009, 07:43 PM
You're working now to pay for Bush's bailout plan, so what's the difference? We wouldn't have NEEDED a bailout if Bush had paid more attention to his job here and less to blowing up crap overseas.

Just sayin'. He had surplus of capital and blew it like he was at Poker night on payday.

mscelina
01-20-2009, 07:47 PM
I'll be watching the Inauguration events all day today. I've managed to watch them all since Carter (God help us) and I always find Inaugutation Day a fascinating display of politics at its height. The pomp and ceremony are fun, the people are excited and we're usually treated to a good speech unless it's twenty below zero.

Should be fun to watch.

William Haskins
01-20-2009, 07:50 PM
You're working now to pay for Bush's bailout plan, so what's the difference?

i worked on the day of bush's inauguration as well.

unlike celina, i have no use for the pomp and circumstance.

mscelina
01-20-2009, 07:53 PM
*shrug*

Any transfer of power involves pomp and circumstance. The rest of our political world is as plebian as possible. Besides, it's funny to watch all of those fatcat politicians freezing their butts off during what promises to be, at the very least, a loooooooooooong inaugural address.

On an off topic, Barbara Bush is a tough old bird. She just shooed the Marine assigned to help her to her seat away with a hand and a "Oh,I'll just use the rail, thanks."

aka eraser
01-20-2009, 08:03 PM
I'm watching the Inaug-Obama now.

Jeepers, when you Yanks abandoned Mother Britain, you took a goodly portion of pomp with you!

Old Hack
01-20-2009, 08:04 PM
And there's Mrs O bringing bling to the White House in yellow-gold glitter.

My thirteen year old son has asked to watch the inauguration as, in his words, it's watching history. He's really excited.

Old Hack
01-20-2009, 08:07 PM
Jeepers, when you Yanks abandoned Mother Britain, you took a goodly portion of pomp with you!

We have plenty to spare: have you SEEN some of our carriages?

Sheryl Nantus
01-20-2009, 08:10 PM
should have had a tailgate party and just ordered in plenty of pizza.

:D

Kitty Pryde
01-20-2009, 08:11 PM
I'm at work AND I'm watching the inauguration on pic2009.org . So exciting! My partner is somewhere in DC, hopefully near the capitol, in a big ole crowd.


:snoopy:

mscelina
01-20-2009, 08:12 PM
The crowd is HUGE.

MsK
01-20-2009, 08:14 PM
I just got the chills. Look at all those people!

scarletpeaches
01-20-2009, 08:15 PM
I'm watching too in chilly Scotchland.

Makes me laugh when they complain about the cold in DC. That's nothing compared to how cold it is here! :D

scarletpeaches
01-20-2009, 08:21 PM
Is this a prayer or a two-hour speech?

mscelina
01-20-2009, 08:22 PM
Oh, I don't know. It's 9 degrees where I am.

scarletpeaches
01-20-2009, 08:23 PM
Tropical!

mscelina
01-20-2009, 08:23 PM
For some preachers, it equates to the same thing.

mscelina
01-20-2009, 08:24 PM
How can you not love Aretha Franklin--and what a cool-ass hat!

scarletpeaches
01-20-2009, 08:25 PM
I'll probably get lynched for this, but...people think Aretha can sing?

StevenJ
01-20-2009, 08:25 PM
Jeepers, when you Yanks abandoned Mother Britain, you took a goodly portion of pomp with you!

Not only that, they've nicked the Queen's song! :D

mscelina
01-20-2009, 08:26 PM
Aretha can sing her ass off.

scarletpeaches
01-20-2009, 08:26 PM
She'd have to sing a lot to-

Nonevermind.

I had to switch the sound off; she made my ears hurt.

Old Hack
01-20-2009, 08:27 PM
I WANT that hat. Couldn't wear it like she does, though.

scarletpeaches
01-20-2009, 08:30 PM
I thought the Presidential Oath had to be taken by noon? Doesn't the White House explode if it's late? I thought there was something in the constitution and it was set in stone?

Forgive me for being a bit thick; I'm Scottish. :(

Kitty Pryde
01-20-2009, 08:30 PM
Less violin playin', more inauguratin'!

mscelina
01-20-2009, 08:31 PM
Okay, I just have to say this--it must suck donkey balls to playthe violin, piano clarinet or cello in this cold weather. That is all.

shakeysix
01-20-2009, 08:33 PM
you would not believe this place. this is a high school and not even the government class is watching this historical event. the teachers won't discuss it because they think obama is a terrorist. the kids tell me that he is going to get shot anyway. the whole place is like in mourning. some actually believe that he will slip the koran under lincoln's bible. well, maybe not that backward, but pretty incredibly stupid according to this elitist godless liberal. one of the teachers was telling a story about a friend of hers who has no health insurance because her husband lost his job this summer. the friend still has her job but has to drive 40 miles a day for work. the gas costs as much as her son's medication for ADD. she has to decide whether to give up her job or her son's meds. she ended this whole sad story by saying "and with obama in office the socialists will take over." i'm still puzzling over that connection. --s6

Kitty Pryde
01-20-2009, 08:33 PM
Umm, anybody notice the announcer said they were playing 'Simple Gift' but they're actually playing 'Tis A Gift To Be Simple'?

scarletpeaches
01-20-2009, 08:34 PM
Isn't that Bush's theme tune?

mscelina
01-20-2009, 08:34 PM
And here we go.

willietheshakes
01-20-2009, 08:35 PM
Umm, anybody notice the announcer said they were playing 'Simple Gift' but they're actually playing 'Tis A Gift To Be Simple'?

I was under the impression that "Simple Gift" WAS "Tis a Gift to Be Simple"...

Must google...

mscelina
01-20-2009, 08:35 PM
He's forgetting the oath of office????

Kitty Pryde
01-20-2009, 08:36 PM
:snoopy::snoopy::snoopy::snoopy:

willietheshakes
01-20-2009, 08:36 PM
I was under the impression that "Simple Gift" WAS "Tis a Gift to Be Simple"...

Must google...

Yup.

http://www2.gol.com/users/quakers/simple_gifts.htm

StevenJ
01-20-2009, 08:37 PM
*cheers a lot*

mscelina
01-20-2009, 08:37 PM
President Barak Obama, 44th President of the United States.

...and a very happy crowd in Washington. Time for the speech.

Old Hack
01-20-2009, 08:37 PM
He's forgetting the oath of office????

It's not like he's said it often...!

Teriann
01-20-2009, 08:37 PM
I have the Inauguration on the radio. He just took office. What a moment!

mscelina
01-20-2009, 08:39 PM
It's not like he's said it often...!

Hell, he's been practicing that oath in the mirror for two months. It's no biggie--he's just nervous. It's not like there are a LOT of words in that oath.

Kitty Pryde
01-20-2009, 08:40 PM
I was under the impression that "Simple Gift" WAS "Tis a Gift to Be Simple"...

Must google...

Crazy! I thought Aaron Copeland wrote it. But, he just stole it.

Shadow_Ferret
01-20-2009, 08:40 PM
I'll be avoiding any and all media today, except here.

Call me a cynic but one man will not make any difference.

The whole rock star aura of this just turns me off.

MsK
01-20-2009, 08:40 PM
Good speech.

mscelina
01-20-2009, 08:44 PM
I have to admit, it gives me quite a chill to see the Mall packed the way it is. what an amazing scene.

Old Hack
01-20-2009, 08:44 PM
Hell, he's been practicing that oath in the mirror for two months. It's no biggie--he's just nervous. It's not like there are a LOT of words in that oath.

I think I might be a little nervous if I had to just stand up in front of all those people, let alone TALK.

He's doing well, I think.

John Paton
01-20-2009, 08:45 PM
4.14am here in Australia.

Did he get ALL the words out in the oath ?? Is he technically the Prez ?

Wel done Mr Obama ;)

Sheryl Nantus
01-20-2009, 08:45 PM
I'll be avoiding any and all media today, except here.

Call me a cynic but one man will not make any difference.

The whole rock star aura of this just turns me off.

I'm hanging out in Second Life for the most part.

Would have been better with free pizza.

:D

StevenJ
01-20-2009, 08:46 PM
Did he get ALL the words out in the oath ?? Is he technically the Prez?

*cue millions of conspiracy theories* :D

scarletpeaches
01-20-2009, 08:47 PM
AND the oath was late, don't forget.

Christine N.
01-20-2009, 08:50 PM
at the very least, a loooooooooooong inaugural address.


Supposed to be a mere 17 minutes. He must be closing in on the end, since he's been going 15 already.

Teriann
01-20-2009, 08:52 PM
You gotta admit, he always knows the right thing to say. Awesome speech.

StevenJ
01-20-2009, 08:57 PM
Blimey, what a speech...

William Haskins
01-20-2009, 08:58 PM
4.14am here in Australia.

Did he get ALL the words out in the oath ?? Is he technically the Prez ?

Wel done Mr Obama

*cue millions of conspiracy theories*

the transfer of power is by statute, not by the oath.

StevenJ
01-20-2009, 09:00 PM
At the risk of sounding like a poetry Philistine, this is the worst poem in the cosmos. :D

blacbird
01-20-2009, 09:01 PM
the transfer of power is by statute, not by the oath.

Specifically, by provision of the Constitution, Barack Obama became President at noon, Eastern Time. The Oath of Office is a ritual formality.

More importantly, we have shown the world, once again, how it is done in a civilized society respecting its own laws and principles and traditions.

caw

William Haskins
01-20-2009, 09:01 PM
good post.

John Paton
01-20-2009, 09:02 PM
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

The Supreme Court Justice stuffed it up

Sheryl Nantus
01-20-2009, 09:04 PM
At the risk of sounding like a poetry Philistine, this is the worst poem in the cosmos. :D

I tried to find any of her books in my local stores.

not a one.

found plenty of Rick Warren's books but not a single one by Elizabeth Alexander.

idiots.

Tirjasdyn
01-20-2009, 09:04 PM
We're watching the the speech now (net coverage is lag at it's best, the entire oath was taken while it showed AF singing...making for a very weird moment and some laughter).

Technically I'm at work.

John Paton
01-20-2009, 09:04 PM
He put faithfully at the end of the United States and not before execute

Pagey's_Girl
01-20-2009, 09:04 PM
At the risk of sounding like a poetry Philistine, this is the worst poem in the cosmos. :D

Thank you. I'm not the only one thinking so, then.

But OMG, what a speech. I'm the biggest cynic ever, I think, and he makes me believe that this time, it's going to be different and we can actually come together and fix this mess. That maybe that light at the end of the tunnel is the way out and not an oncoming train...

Teriann
01-20-2009, 09:04 PM
As blacbird said, "More importantly, we have shown the world, once again, how it is done in a civilized society respecting its own laws and principles and traditions."

I don't often feel patriotic. I often feel too cynical. But whenever I vote, I feel patriotic, and I feel patriotic right now.

It's a great moment.

Bravo
01-20-2009, 09:05 PM
another prayer?

Pagey's_Girl
01-20-2009, 09:06 PM
As blacbird said, "More importantly, we have shown the world, once again, how it is done in a civilized society respecting its own laws and principles and traditions."

I don't often feel patriotic. I often feel too cynical. But whenever I vote, I feel patriotic, and I feel patriotic right now.

It's a great moment.

Me, too. And I never feel that way, either.

This is a great day.

blacbird
01-20-2009, 09:07 PM
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

The Supreme Court Justice stuffed it up

Yeah, but he was new at it, too.

caw

kuwisdelu
01-20-2009, 09:07 PM
Skipped my attendance-optional stats class today to watch this. Since I'm still on campus, had to watch it online. With my university's craptastic WiFi connection, it was lagtastic. I'm happy I did, though. What a day. :)

willietheshakes
01-20-2009, 09:08 PM
Crazy! I thought Aaron Copeland wrote it. But, he just stole it.

Nah, he credited it with inspiring Appalachian Spring.

If you're interested, though, you should take a listen to this: http://www.amazon.com/Simple-Gifts-Shaker-Chants-Spirituals/dp/B000005EDQ/ref=pd_bbs_sr_5?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1232473075&sr=8-5

It's one of my favourite albums... hmm... today strikes me as a good day to break it out.

John Paton
01-20-2009, 09:10 PM
Specifically, by provision of the Constitution, Barack Obama became President at noon, Eastern Time. The Oath of Office is a ritual formality.

More importantly, we have shown the world, once again, how it is done in a civilized society respecting its own laws and principles and traditions.

caw


The oath or affirmation of office (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_office) of the President of the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States) was established in the United States Constitution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution) and is mandatory for a President upon beginning a term of office.

according to my info at any rate ;)

Captshady
01-20-2009, 09:12 PM
His sincerity was what was unique in his speech, IMO. Moreso than his words. The speech was okay ... his sincerity was touching.

billythrilly7th
01-20-2009, 09:12 PM
I can't believe he messed up the oath.

Not the start we were looking for.

Gobama!!

maxmordon
01-20-2009, 09:13 PM
I'll be avoiding any and all media today, except here.

Call me a cynic but one man will not make any difference.

The whole rock star aura of this just turns me off.

Finally someone whom opinions about this I share is here.

StevenJ
01-20-2009, 09:14 PM
There's a transcript of President Obama's speech here:

http://drudgereport.com/flashosi.htm

maxmordon
01-20-2009, 09:15 PM
Here the networks were showing it but seemed to consider that the afternoon soap operas are more important.

Toothpaste
01-20-2009, 09:23 PM
I'll be avoiding any and all media today, except here.

Call me a cynic but one man will not make any difference.

The whole rock star aura of this just turns me off.


If you had watched the speech you would have learned that Obama agrees with you. The whole thing was how everyone must bear responsibility. That one man alone can't do it. It's a pity you've allowed the media and hype to blind you to the actual words the man speaks. If you hate the hype so much, why are you giving it credence by allowing it to dictate your feelings towards the guy?

You know, just because the people and the media go kind of crazy for him, doesn't mean this isn't a guy with his head screwed on right. I remember his acceptance speech when he won, very somber, very, "We have a lot of work ahead." This is a guy who gets it.

I don't think he can solve all the USA's problems in a day, a month, a year . . .heck even 4 years.

Point is, neither does he. But that doesn't mean he isn't going to start the wheels turning.

rugcat
01-20-2009, 09:26 PM
Tremendously affecting.

It feels really good to set aside cynicism long enough to enjoy a truly profound moment in our history.

mscelina
01-20-2009, 09:28 PM
Well, it's Obama's watch now. It was interesting to see the pressure already etched onto his face, the weight that was bearing down his shoulders. It doesn't take long, does it, for the realities of the hell that the Presidency must be to sink in.

I was not overly impressed with the speech; I think he was kind enough to keep it short in consideration of the people who were freezing their butts off outside to watch the ceremony. I kept waiting for the rhetorical milestone of the speech, the moment that would encapsulate Obama's view of the future--but it never came. Still, a new day in Washington and a new administration to get accustomed to. Now the fun--and the work--begin.

On an off topic, I like Michelle Obama's dress.

John Paton
01-20-2009, 09:35 PM
I kept waiting for the rhetorical milestone of the speech, --but it never came.

"On this day" was mentioned a few times but not "Yes we can"

agreed ... no few words that will go down in History for all time

but overall a great speech - Good luck to him and to all of us

WriteKnight
01-20-2009, 09:37 PM
Chief justice blew the oath, Obama tried to follow him. No biggy... the power was 'officially' transfered at noon - oath or no.

mscelina
01-20-2009, 09:38 PM
Two million people in that crowd in the mall. Wow.

scarletpeaches
01-20-2009, 09:39 PM
If you had watched the speech you would have learned that Obama agrees with you. The whole thing was how everyone must bear responsibility. That one man alone can't do it. It's a pity you've allowed the media and hype to blind you to the actual words the man speaks. If you hate the hype so much, why are you giving it credence by allowing it to dictate your feelings towards the guy?

You know, just because the people and the media go kind of crazy for him, doesn't mean this isn't a guy with his head screwed on right. I remember his acceptance speech when he won, very somber, very, "We have a lot of work ahead." This is a guy who gets it.

I don't think he can solve all the USA's problems in a day, a month, a year . . .heck even 4 years.

Point is, neither does he. But that doesn't mean he isn't going to start the wheels turning.

Yeah. Just because you can't do it all doesn't mean you shouldn't do your bit.

rhymegirl
01-20-2009, 09:39 PM
The Supreme Court Justice stuffed it up

Yes, let's remember that. You're following what someone is telling you to say.

It's as nerve-wracking as getting married and you're trying to repeat what the minister or justice of the peace tells you to say. You know what to say but THEY still have to get it right.

scarletpeaches
01-20-2009, 09:40 PM
At the risk of sounding like a poetry Philistine, this is the worst poem in the cosmos. :D

Yeah. It didn't even rhyme.

And she was a shitty reader.

jst5150
01-20-2009, 09:43 PM
Who immediately follow the president at the inauguration? A poet. And she was nervous and her teeth were chattering. :) So either way, you know ... go poets.

willietheshakes
01-20-2009, 09:44 PM
...one man will not make any difference.


And yet, historically, it is the action of individuals that HAVE made the difference. Time after time after time.

mscelina
01-20-2009, 09:47 PM
Yes, let's remember that. You're following what someone is telling you to say.

The oath has been the same for 44 Presidents and is probably the shortest oath of office in existence:

<B>
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."



The 'so help me God' was added ad lib by George Washington and every President since has used it. It's not like it's long--it's only 34 words, 38 with the 'so help me God." If Barak Obama didn't have those words committed to memory, then God help us all.

They should have practiced the pauses, probably.</B>

Tirjasdyn
01-20-2009, 09:49 PM
On an off topic, I like Michelle Obama's dress.

I really liked this dress.

Much better than that red and black one.

rhymegirl
01-20-2009, 09:49 PM
The oath has been the same for 44 Presidents and is probably the shortest oath of office in existence

Nerves, Celina. Have you ever gotten nervous?

StevenJ
01-20-2009, 09:53 PM
CNN states that Chief Justice Roberts messed up the lines, hence Obama's stumbling.

mscelina
01-20-2009, 09:56 PM
I called it nerves in an earlier post on it, rhymegirl.

Hell, he's been practicing that oath in the mirror for two months. It's no biggie--he's just nervous. It's not like there are a LOT of words in that oath.


Geesch. Need a valium?

nevada
01-20-2009, 09:56 PM
"On this day" was mentioned a few times but not "Yes we can"

agreed ... no few words that will go down in History for all time

but overall a great speech - Good luck to him and to all of us

I wonder if he did it on purpose. So that the medium wouldn't overpower the message as it were. So people would not be so wrapped up in the symbol of "yes we can" that they would forget to listen to the words and what he was trying to say.

III
01-20-2009, 09:56 PM
Listened to it in my car. I really dig Obama the man and actually believe he's in politics to serve the people, not out of personal ambition or political dogma. It was the right speech for the occasion - brief and general and inspirational. Now save my 401K!

whistlelock
01-20-2009, 09:59 PM
CNN states that Chief Justice Roberts messed up the lines, hence Obama's stumbling.
Do you think the charm will wear off since they said it wrong?

mscelina
01-20-2009, 10:00 PM
I wonder if he did it on purpose. So that the medium wouldn't overpower the message as it were. So people would not be so wrapped up in the symbol of "yes we can" that they would forget to listen to the words and what he was trying to say.

"Yes we can" was the rhetoric of the campaign. Now he will focus on the rhetoric of the administration, which appears to me will be wrapped around the concept of service to others, judging from both his inaugural speech and his actions of the last couple of days. It's a natural extension of "ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country" and I think he may have made the decision to show that sentiment as opposed to telling us about it.

KTC
01-20-2009, 10:01 PM
I watched and listened to it on CNN.COM

YES HE DID.

StevenJ
01-20-2009, 10:01 PM
Must say, it's nice to see how dignified and gracious John McCain has been towards Obama since the election.

scarletpeaches
01-20-2009, 10:02 PM
I watched and listened to it on CNN.COM

YES HE DID.

Not yet he didn't.

He has four years in which to do it! :D

Romantic Heretic
01-20-2009, 10:03 PM
This is the thought that keeps appearing to me.

Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning. - Winston Churchill

My biggest worry now is that there are a fair number of people who don't regard Obama's Presidency as the fulfillment of the American Dream, but as its complete failure. I'm very concerned what these people will do in their despair.

Ms. Jem
01-20-2009, 10:03 PM
Well, it's official, whew! I don't know about anyone else, but through President Obama's ambitious speech, I was just hoping someone wouldn't take this as an opportunity to make history with an assassination attempt. I'm just glad it's over.

And Michelle did rock that outfit.

mscelina
01-20-2009, 10:05 PM
I want to have the lunch they're having. The menu sounds really, really good.

Ms. Jem
01-20-2009, 10:09 PM
My biggest worry now is that there are a fair number of people who don't regard Obama's Presidency as the fulfillment of the American Dream, but as its complete failure. I'm very concerned what these people will do in their despair.

I agree, Romantic Heretic. Secret Service better not sleep for the next four years.

scarletpeaches
01-20-2009, 10:11 PM
I want to have the lunch they're having. The menu sounds really, really good.

I'm having inaugural chicken wrapped in inaugural breadcrumbs, with inaugural smiley faces, sprinkled with inaugural salt.

I shall also have an inaugural mug of Assam tea.

StevenJ
01-20-2009, 10:12 PM
I'm having a Presidential lunch of toasted sandwiches and Monster Munch - eat your heart out, Barack! :D

robeiae
01-20-2009, 10:26 PM
Obama gives good speech. No question about it.

But this bit says a great deal, to me anyway:

The question we ask today is not whether our government is too big or too small, but whether it works - whether it helps families find jobs at a decent wage, care they can afford, a retirement that is dignified.

I would posit that this bit reveals some underlying assumptions about the nature of government--the Feds in particular--that are shared not only by the Dems, but by a good chunk of the Repubs, as well.

And I would argue that these assumptions are exactly what have pushed the conservative base away from folks like Bush and McCain and the Republican Party in general, are exactly why the markets continue to tumble, are exactly why it is apparent that those in power have no clue about the economy, are exactly why we are looking at an extended recession, and are exactly why we are doomed to wither on the vine.

But I'm upbeat and hopeful...

willietheshakes
01-20-2009, 10:36 PM
I want to have the lunch they're having. The menu sounds really, really good.

In honour of the day, and the man, my lunch will be black coffee and cigarettes.

BenPanced
01-20-2009, 10:42 PM
I want Aretha Franklin's hat.

Keyan
01-20-2009, 10:42 PM
I'm watching the Inaug-Obama now.

Jeepers, when you Yanks abandoned Mother Britain, you took a goodly portion of pomp with you!

I was thinking that. It was so like a coronation. But the commentators were pointing out that the "king" steps down in four years or eight, and then it's onward to the next guy.

Cool.

And I think the world is owed some pageantry. It would be deadly dull if there was no inauguration. Imagine if the new pres just went in to work this morning, took over the files and papers from the outgoing guy, had an office party with cake and Coke, and that was it...

Zoombie
01-20-2009, 10:50 PM
WHen it comes to whether an individual man versus the group and who accomplishes more, I subscribe to the Babylon 5 worldview: The individual IS important, even if its just leading the others. Especially if its leading the others.

Heck, one man changed the world completely in 20 years, and he did it starting in a beer hall in Germany during the worst depression that country has ever seen!. Now, he didn't change it in a particularly nice or happy way, but he did change it.

Obama can change the world a great deal. How much and in which direction, we have yet to see.

I'm hopeful, though, cause this guy seems to be a nice fella...

Lets just hope he dosn't start WWIII and the new Holocaust, like one of my freinds was predicting. And by predicting, i mean he said: "Woulden't it be cool if Obama was like Hitler."

And I said, "Why on Earth would you say such a horrible thing."

And he said: "Cause it would mean all the liberal douchebags I know were WRONG!"

My freind is a deeply bitter person.

John Paton
01-20-2009, 10:51 PM
In honour of the day, and the man, my lunch will be black coffee and cigarettes.

Normally white coffee ?? ;)

scarletpeaches
01-20-2009, 10:52 PM
Back in the days of Clinton, the cigarettes would be a cigar.

maxmordon
01-20-2009, 10:52 PM
WHen it comes to whether an individual man versus the group and who accomplishes more, I subscribe to the Babylon 5 worldview: The individual IS important, even if its just leading the others. Especially if its leading the others.

Heck, one man changed the world completely in 20 years, and he did it starting in a beer hall in Germany during the worst depression that country has ever seen!. Now, he didn't change it in a particularly nice or happy way, but he did change it.

Obama can change the world a great deal. How much and in which direction, we have yet to see.

I'm hopeful, though, cause this guy seems to be a nice fella...

Lets just hope he dosn't start WWIII and the new Holocaust, like one of my freinds was predicting. And by predicting, i mean he said: "Woulden't it be cool if Obama was like Hitler."

And I said, "Why on Earth would you say such a horrible thing."

And he said: "Cause it would mean all the liberal douchebags I know were WRONG!"

My freind is a deeply bitter person.

Hitler made at least one good thing for humanity... it made us watchful to be sure not another monster like him shall resurface again.

maxmordon
01-20-2009, 10:53 PM
Normally white coffee ?? ;)

What about coffee with milk?

willietheshakes
01-20-2009, 10:55 PM
Back in the days of Clinton, the cigarettes would be a cigar.

And my lunches would be much more interesting.

scarletpeaches
01-20-2009, 10:56 PM
I did not have lunch with that man ^^^ .

willietheshakes
01-20-2009, 11:02 PM
I did not have lunch with that man ^^^ .

(psst - SP. Yeah. Be real cool, but, it looks like you got a little somethin' on yer dress...)

Captshady
01-20-2009, 11:14 PM
I want Aretha Franklin's hat.


My gosh that was a huge bow.

The oath has been the same for 44 Presidents and is probably the shortest oath of office in existence:

44th is funny to me. If Obama gets re-elected, he doesn't become the 45th president. Grover Cleveland served two terms, just not consecutive. He's the only one counted twice.

Interesting though, in how it's phrased. "44 men" have been inaugurated? Not a numerically correct statement.

Norman D Gutter
01-20-2009, 11:14 PM
I caught the last 5 or 6 minutes on the car radio. Except for the part about his race, what I heard was reasonably consistent with the policies of GWB. Stuff about letting our enemies know that we won't tire, that we'll win in Afghanistan, that we will conclude our time in Iraq honorably, etc.

And I liked Barrak the better for it.

I missed the part about us picking ourselves up. I'll try to catch it tonight.

NDG

Cranky
01-20-2009, 11:34 PM
Obama gives good speech. No question about it.

But this bit says a great deal, to me anyway:

I would posit that this bit reveals some underlying assumptions about the nature of government--the Feds in particular--that are shared not only by the Dems, but by a good chunk of the Repubs, as well.

And I would argue that these assumptions are exactly what have pushed the conservative base away from folks like Bush and McCain and the Republican Party in general, are exactly why the markets continue to tumble, are exactly why it is apparent that those in power have no clue about the economy, are exactly why we are looking at an extended recession, and are exactly why we are doomed to wither on the vine.

But I'm upbeat and hopeful...


I"m glad to see I'm not the only one for whom that part leapt out a bit for.

Ew. Ugly sentence. But you get my meaning: I agree.

beezle
01-20-2009, 11:38 PM
Senators Edward Kennedy and Robert Byrd fell ill a short time ago at the Capitol luncheon where President Obama and Vice President Biden are being honored, CNN and other news media are reporting.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/01/61658174/1

Byrd was taken out in a wheelchair and Kennedy had a seizure.

AnneMarble
01-20-2009, 11:40 PM
Both Senator Kennedy and Senator Byrd fell ill at the luncheon and were taken away.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/01/61658174/1

Senator Kennedy, of course, is suffering from brain cancer, and Senator Byrd is 91 and has been in bad health for years. Both are at area hospitals.

billythrilly7th
01-20-2009, 11:47 PM
It's like a scene from Airplane.

I hope Obama didn't have the fish.

HeronW
01-21-2009, 12:18 AM
The US taxpayers are bailing out banks, car industries, etc ad nauseum, losing their jobs and their homes and then paying for the most massive inauguration in US history. Yeah, same old shaft, new hand on it.

Bread and circuses look better than improved education, affordable health care for everyone, and employment opportunites.

ALG71
01-21-2009, 12:46 AM
The US taxpayers are bailing out banks, car industries, etc ad nauseum, losing their jobs and their homes and then paying for the most massive inauguration in US history. Yeah, same old shaft, new hand on it.

Bread and circuses look better than improved education, affordable health care for everyone, and employment opportunites.

A part of the inauguration ceremonies are being paid for by donations. And as for the cost of the most massive inauguration in US history, it's because it's the most massive turnout for an inauguration in US history.

How free would a country be if its government told its people, "No, you can't come to the change of power ceremony that You the People voted for."? That it's only for the politicians (that we elected) to enjoy.

In the end, the bailouts are going to cost over a trillion dollars, maybe even 2 trillion. The inauguration is going to cost about $150 million. And while, sure, $150 million is a ton of money and I, for one, am tired of insane government spending, this is one expenditure I am not upset about. It's partially funded by donations, it happens only once every 4 years, and this day every four years is a display to this country's greatness.

Not that we know how to throw one hell of a party, but that we are truly free to choose our leaders. That our leadership does not change behind closed doors or by military or political coups. But by the will of the people, and the people have the right to go to Washington and witness that change.

Because of that, massive turnout equals massive costs for security. And the expensive food at the inaugural luncheon isn't even a blip on the radar compared to what the security and coordination costs.

mscelina
01-21-2009, 01:00 AM
Good for them! I'm glad to see them walking part of the parade route.

angelgirl
01-21-2009, 01:42 AM
Of all the things that my tax money gets spent on, the inauguration is the least of my worries. In fact, I am happy to help fund a ceremony that embodies the principals of our nation - especially since the entire world is watching.

Snowstorm
01-21-2009, 02:59 AM
Yeah the Supreme Court Justice screwed up, which threw off Obama. There's NO excuse for a friggin SCOTUS chief justice to screw a few friggin words. I'm disgusted.

Snowstorm
01-21-2009, 03:03 AM
Of all the things that my tax money gets spent on, the inauguration is the least of my worries. In fact, I am happy to help fund a ceremony that embodies the principals of our nation - especially since the entire world is watching.

Well said. I disagree with those who say who should scale back the festivities. I see no point to climbing into the dark pit of despair. sometime you gotta have a bright spot to jumpstart brighter thinking.

Chumplet
01-21-2009, 04:13 AM
I ran the streaming video on my computer but it wasn't enough, so I went to the boardroom and turned on the TV.

Several joined me, including the publisher. We watched for an hour, from the swearing-in until the end of the speech. I had chills.

When I got back to my computer, apparently we'd been given orders by Torstar IT to log off our computers because everyone in the company was crashing the servers.

KTC
01-21-2009, 04:19 AM
I ran the streaming video on my computer but it wasn't enough, so I went to the boardroom and turned on the TV.

Several joined me, including the publisher. We watched for an hour, from the swearing-in until the end of the speech. I had chills.

When I got back to my computer, apparently we'd been given orders by Torstar IT to log off our computers because everyone in the company was crashing the servers.


lol...yes. the stream was a bit crazy too. sound was either ahead or behind what we were seeing on the screen. But well worth it...just to see.

Chumplet
01-21-2009, 04:21 AM
Regarding the spending... I assume the caterers, servers, party organizers, suppliers, chefs, bartenders, babysitters, taxi drivers, chauffeurs, hotel employees, etc. are being compensated for their services, thus driving the economy.

MattW
01-21-2009, 04:58 AM
I had an invite to an Inaugural Ball, but I was in no financial position to stimulate the economy.

William Haskins
01-21-2009, 06:04 AM
bend over and assume the position, for the economy will surely stimulate you.

mscelina
01-21-2009, 06:12 AM
That is a thoroughly chilling mental image, William. Thank you for that.

Now I need a stiff drink.

Pagey's_Girl
01-21-2009, 06:52 AM
Well said. I disagree with those who say who should scale back the festivities. I see no point to climbing into the dark pit of despair. sometime you gotta have a bright spot to jumpstart brighter thinking.

Exactly. The first step toward fixing this mess is believing we can all come together and actually fix it. That's what today was about, in a way. Coming together after all these years of letting things tear us apart, and looking beyond ourselves to something greater, something that's going to make things better for everyone. Finding a way, or making one.

I've had it with being cynical, damn it. I want to believe that we can make things better.

billythrilly7th
01-21-2009, 07:58 AM
It's really beginning to look like Hillary's campaign is in trouble.

Death Wizard
01-21-2009, 08:14 AM
I'm proud to be an American today. I haven't been this excited since my wedding day or the days my daughters came into my world.

The hard-earned money I spent on a bottle of champagne was money well-spent.

This is a great time. Obama is a great man. And no one will convince me otherwise.

benbradley
01-21-2009, 09:46 AM
Long post, I'm just now catching up on this thread...
you would not believe this place. this is a high school and not even the government class is watching this historical event. the teachers won't discuss it because they think obama is a terrorist. the kids tell me that he is going to get shot anyway. the whole place is like in mourning. some actually believe that he will slip the koran under lincoln's bible. well, maybe not that backward, but pretty incredibly stupid according to this elitist godless liberal. one of the teachers was telling a story about a friend of hers who has no health insurance because her husband lost his job this summer. the friend still has her job but has to drive 40 miles a day for work. the gas costs as much as her son's medication for ADD. she has to decide whether to give up her job or her son's meds. she ended this whole sad story by saying "and with obama in office the socialists will take over." i'm still puzzling over that connection. --s6
Geez, that's worse than Georgia. But then, I've not really heard anyone around here talk about the President except my UU congregation (well, there was some guy at the auto shop said we have a black President, but it's hard to know what he meant by it).

But I looked at your location, and ... Kansas, the state whose Board of Education prompted the invention discovery and promotion of The Flying Spaghetti Monster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_Monster)....
It's not like he's said it often...!

Hell, he's been practicing that oath in the mirror for two months. It's no biggie--he's just nervous. It's not like there are a LOT of words in that oath.
No doubt that for every Presidential oath from now own, the President-Elect and the Supreme Justice will practice it beforehand. :)
I think I might be a little nervous if I had to just stand up in front of all those people, let alone TALK.

He's doing well, I think.
Yeah, there's two million people there, but probably less than five percent of them can actually SEE him. Though I saw the CNN report on the satelitte images, and they were pointing out where all the Jumbotrons were around the Washington Memorial, and all the ants people gathered around them.
another prayer?
I misssed Warren's, prayer, but I found it interesting that in his speech Obama mentioned "Christians and muslims, Jews and Hindus... non-believers,: implying they all have equal rights and responsibilities as Americans. I think he may have said something similar during the campaign. But this is the most respect atheists have ever gotten from such a high office, at least that I've seen.

There was a historian on today's "Fresh Air" who said that having preachers at inaugurations only happened in the 20th century, that before, the separation of church and state was taken much more seriously.
"Yes we can" was the rhetoric of the campaign. Now he will focus on the rhetoric of the administration, which appears to me will be wrapped around the concept of service to others, judging from both his inaugural speech and his actions of the last couple of days. It's a natural extension of "ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country" and I think he may have made the decision to show that sentiment as opposed to telling us about it.
Maybe I'm cynical, but I wonder if he's intentionally trying to be or sound like JFK.
What about coffee with milk?
Mixed black and white? Do you really think that can work? :)
I caught the last 5 or 6 minutes on the car radio. Except for the part about his race, what I heard was reasonably consistent with the policies of GWB. Stuff about letting our enemies know that we won't tire, that we'll win in Afghanistan, that we will conclude our time in Iraq honorably, etc.

And I liked Barrak the better for it.

I missed the part about us picking ourselves up. I'll try to catch it tonight.

NDG
I heard that too. Later I heard Shawn Hannity saying what a horrible , horrible speech Obama gave (makes me wonder how he would respond if W said the exact same words). I had to get up to change the station. Hearing Hannity's voice is always a trigger for me - it reminds me that NPR's "All Things Considered" is on.

Neal Boortz, a big W fan (he and a few other talkshow host had a visit with President Bush last Wednesday) and consistent detractor of Hillary and Obama, at least had this gracious thing to say today (just don't read the comments...):
http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2009/01/today-we-celebrate.html
A part of the inauguration ceremonies are being paid for by donations. And as for the cost of the most massive inauguration in US history, it's because it's the most massive turnout for an inauguration in US history.

How free would a country be if its government told its people, "No, you can't come to the change of power ceremony that You the People voted for."? That it's only for the politicians (that we elected) to enjoy.

In the end, the bailouts are going to cost over a trillion dollars, maybe even 2 trillion. The inauguration is going to cost about $150 million. And while, sure, $150 million is a ton of money and I, for one, am tired of insane government spending, this is one expenditure I am not upset about. It's partially funded by donations, it happens only once every 4 years, and this day every four years is a display to this country's greatness.

Not that we know how to throw one hell of a party, but that we are truly free to choose our leaders. That our leadership does not change behind closed doors or by military or political coups. But by the will of the people, and the people have the right to go to Washington and witness that change.

Because of that, massive turnout equals massive costs for security. And the expensive food at the inaugural luncheon isn't even a blip on the radar compared to what the security and coordination costs.
I agree with it all, except one could only wish that Congress would go back to talking about bills and funds in amounts of hundreds of millions of dollars, instead of hundreds of BILLIONS.
It's really beginning to look like Hillary's campaign is in trouble.
Don't count her out, there's always 2016...

blacbird
01-21-2009, 12:55 PM
I heard Shawn Hannity saying what a horrible , horrible speech Obama gave

Hannity has advanced to the top of the idiot list among major commentators, knocking Glenn Beck off his throne. Actually, that advancement happened some weeks ago, but he just defended his title successfully.

caw

nevada
01-21-2009, 02:52 PM
Here is an excellent analysis of the speech.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-01-20/no-more-mr-eloquent/

KTC
01-21-2009, 03:08 PM
I'm proud to be an American today. I haven't been this excited since my wedding day or the days my daughters came into my world.

The hard-earned money I spent on a bottle of champagne was money well-spent.

This is a great time. Obama is a great man. And no one will convince me otherwise.

Quoted for truth. My hope is that his actions will convince non-supporters to one day wholeheartedly agree with you.

James81
01-21-2009, 03:22 PM
Here is an excellent analysis of the speech.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-01-20/no-more-mr-eloquent/

Why is everybody saying it wasn't an eloquent speech?

First of all, he made ONE (count them ONE) stumble on his words early on into the speech. Second of all, the language he used was beautiful. Finally, his delivery very much reflected a calm, confidence given the situation that he has inherited.

I rank it as one of his best, yet I keep hearing people downplay it (on the news and on the internet).

KTC
01-21-2009, 03:24 PM
Holy. Today is marked on my calendar. I agree with James again. That's 4 times now, James!

James81
01-21-2009, 03:26 PM
Holy. Today is marked on my calendar. I agree with James again. That's 4 times now, James!

They probably make some kind of pill that can help you. :tongue

KTC
01-21-2009, 03:28 PM
They probably make some kind of pill that can help you. :tongue

Wrong.

scarletpeaches
01-21-2009, 03:31 PM
Dudes. I'm glad Bush is gone too. I'm still trying to work out if I'm anti-Bush or pro-Obama. Probably a little of both.

Yeah, I'm excited.

But let's not start expecting him to walk on water, cure cancer or bring about world peace.

Norman D Gutter
01-21-2009, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by benbradley
Originally Posted by Norman D Gutter
I caught the last 5 or 6 minutes on the car radio. Except for the part about his race, what I heard was reasonably consistent with the policies of GWB. Stuff about letting our enemies know that we won't tire, that we'll win in Afghanistan, that we will conclude our time in Iraq honorably, etc.

And I liked Barrak the better for it.

I missed the part about us picking ourselves up. I'll try to catch it tonight.

NDG

I heard that too. Later I heard Shawn Hannity saying what a horrible , horrible speech Obama gave (makes me wonder how he would respond if W said the exact same words). I had to get up to change the station. Hearing Hannity's voice is always a trigger for me - it reminds me that NPR's "All Things Considered" is on.

Neal Boortz, a big W fan (he and a few other talkshow host had a visit with President Bush last Wednesday) and consistent detractor of Hillary and Obama, at least had this gracious thing to say today (just don't read the comments...):
http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2009/01...celebrate.html
Sean Hannity is a hack. I have no clue how he got to be where he is. Of all the conservative commentators he is the worst, sinking below even Michael Savage in terms of journalistic "excellence".

Always give an opponent his due. If he gives a good speech, say so. If he makes one good decision among ten bad, say so. If he does better in his job than you ever expected, say so. The loyal opposition gig only has credibility so long as the opponent has credibility and intellectual honesty. Hannity has none.

Unfortunately, the press of life prevented me from seeing the full speech. Maybe tonight.

NDG

MattW
01-21-2009, 04:58 PM
Why is everybody saying it wasn't an eloquent speech?

First of all, he made ONE (count them ONE) stumble on his words early on into the speech. Second of all, the language he used was beautiful. Finally, his delivery very much reflected a calm, confidence given the situation that he has inherited.

I rank it as one of his best, yet I keep hearing people downplay it (on the news and on the internet).I thought it was good.

I'm actually glad it wasn't loaded with sound bites - that's probably why some people in media are pissed. If it can be boiled down to a Cliff's Notes version, they don't know how to cover it.

Don
01-21-2009, 05:51 PM
Obama gives good speech. No question about it.

But this bit says a great deal, to me anyway:


The question we ask today is not whether our government is too big or too small, but whether it works - whether it helps families find jobs at a decent wage, care they can afford, a retirement that is dignified.

I would posit that this bit reveals some underlying assumptions about the nature of government--the Feds in particular--that are shared not only by the Dems, but by a good chunk of the Repubs, as well.

And I would argue that these assumptions are exactly what have pushed the conservative base away from folks like Bush and McCain and the Republican Party in general, are exactly why the markets continue to tumble, are exactly why it is apparent that those in power have no clue about the economy, are exactly why we are looking at an extended recession, and are exactly why we are doomed to wither on the vine.

But I'm upbeat and hopeful...
Nailed it in one, Rob, although with those assumptions leading to the conclusions you posit, I'm finding it very difficult to be upbeat and hopeful. Are you upbeat and hopeful that in two years the handwriting will be on the wall and that election will bring some real changes?

MsK
01-21-2009, 07:16 PM
I haven't read through all the posts, so maybe someone mentioned this already.

I loved Michelle's chiffon gown. (Liked the gold one a lot too)
That gown she wore last night was absolutely perfect for the occasion and she looked beautiful.

rhymegirl
01-21-2009, 07:29 PM
I haven't read through all the posts, so maybe someone mentioned this already.

I loved Michelle's chiffon gown. (Liked the gold one a lot too)
That gown she wore last night was absolutely perfect for the occasion and she looked beautiful.

Right you are! Nice post, MsK!

WriteKnight
01-21-2009, 07:39 PM
I thought the speech was very pertinent. As Bush is so fond of saying 'History will be the judge' - ususally followed by some example of someone judged poorly at first and vindicated later. With that yardstick - I point to the Gettysburgh address - widely panned and barely heard in the moment.

I think as his administration unfolds, his words will gain more weight, even more relevance. Then people will look back at them and say "OH - I Get it... THAT'S what he meant!! Of course!" He wasn't speaking in sound bites for the present, he was speaking with long term vision. Only in retrospect will the words take on even greater relevance.

History WILL indeed judge us all.

cethklein
01-21-2009, 08:09 PM
I missed msot of the inauguration. About all I saw was the poem and a tiny part of Obama's speech. (thanks a lot shitty internet connection since I have no TV in my office).

I've always believed that inaugurations aren't a big deal. I think they should take the oath and move on.

That being said, Obama did a few things (from what I saw in the highlights) that I appreciated. For example, he stayed until the end of the parade when everyone else in the box left. I thought that was pretty classy. a lot of participants were kdis who wanted him to see them.

Dommo
01-21-2009, 09:22 PM
I think inaugurations are a big deal, because of what they represent.

They represent a continuity of peaceful power transfer since the birth of the USA. It's almost a cyclical period of rebirth for the country. I mean I hope to live to see the 300th anniversary of our country, but a part of me hopes that we give rome a run for the money in terms of how long our country holds together.

Plus I think the US is the trend setter in the world. Eventually every big social issue, or technology, or some other big thing will crop its head here, and a decision will be made. That decision will influence the rest of the world. Change happens here first as hard as it is to believe. It might happen slowly, but the USA as a country is so big that it has a lot of inertia to overcome before it can shift courses. It's like steering a massive ship, you can't turn it on a dime.

What happened in this election, was that a guy who came from a pretty humble background, the son of an african immigrant, has become the most powerful human being on the planet. He's got the might of the USA under his direct command, and depending on how he uses it he could achieve some pretty amazing things. As much as the rest of the world doesn't want to admit it, they look to our country for leadership, and the lack of US leadership is largely why a lot of issues worldwide are stuck in the mud so to speak.

What I'd like to see Obama do obviously is try to get our economy rolling again, and do what he can to ensure that sound fiscal policy keeps a tight reign on the banks and on Wall street. Secondly, I'd like to see some serious renovation of our national infrastructure, and reform of our health and educational systems. Lastly I'd like to see our military forces used for good purposes, in particular enforcing peace and protecting the vulnerable. The US military is feared around the world, and we should make an example of those whose who'd prey on the helpless. Clinton's biggest weakness was that he had no balls, and Bush's weakness was that he had no brains. Ideally I'd like to see Obama have both.

smoothseas
01-21-2009, 09:26 PM
That being said, Obama did a few things (from what I saw in the highlights) that I appreciated. For example, he stayed until the end of the parade when everyone else in the box left. I thought that was pretty classy. a lot of participants were kdis who wanted him to see them.

And most of 'em will probably be eligible to vote in 2012. They'll remember that, and I will, too. Don't know how he'll do as Prez, but I think that both he and Michelle are just plain Good Folk.

kuwisdelu
01-21-2009, 09:47 PM
Why is everybody saying it wasn't an eloquent speech?

First of all, he made ONE (count them ONE) stumble on his words early on into the speech. Second of all, the language he used was beautiful. Finally, his delivery very much reflected a calm, confidence given the situation that he has inherited.

I rank it as one of his best, yet I keep hearing people downplay it (on the news and on the internet).

Agreed. I liked it, too.

I think it's just because people expected him to say something so "eloquent" that he could bring dead puppies back to life from its sheer brilliance.

StevenJ
01-21-2009, 10:02 PM
Agreed. I liked it, too.

I think it's just because people expected him to say something so "eloquent" that he could bring dead puppies back to life from its sheer brilliance.

Yep. Journalists & broadcasters were waiting for a 'torch has been passed to a new generation etc' moment, and instead Obama went for common sense, not soundbytes.

William Haskins
01-21-2009, 11:11 PM
http://www.fresnobeehive.com/archives/assets_c/2009/01/obamaballs-thumb-450x437-16019.jpg
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Jcomp
01-22-2009, 12:36 AM
http://www.fresnobeehive.com/archives/assets_c/2009/01/obamaballs-thumb-450x437-16019.jpg
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Hilarious...

You know it's weird... based on the type of sense of humor you have, at a certain age certain words or phrases either cease being funny for unintentionally filthy reasons, or cease being anything but funny for unintentionally filthy reasons.

I fall into the former category. Can't help it.

Jcomp
01-22-2009, 12:40 AM
Agreed. I liked it, too.

I think it's just because people expected him to say something so "eloquent" that he could bring dead puppies back to life from its sheer brilliance.

I was waiting for the stars to begin shining in broad daylight and take the shape of a constellation spelling out "OBAMA ROCKS!" in the sky.

billythrilly7th
01-22-2009, 04:21 AM
Obama just took the oath again.

William Haskins
01-22-2009, 04:30 AM
now he's really really really for reals president.

beezle
01-22-2009, 04:50 AM
Obama just took the oath again.

What an inauspicious start.

StevenJ
01-23-2009, 12:03 AM
A superb collection of Inauguration photographs:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/01/the_inauguration_of_president.html