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Bravo
10-13-2008, 06:01 PM
bush has declared n. koreans are no longer terrorists, but mccain has amped up the rhetoric against them:

I have previously said that I would not support the easing of sanctions North Korea unless the United States is able to fully verify the nuclear declaration Pyongyang submitted on June 26. […] I expect the administration to explain exactly how this new verification agreement advances American interests and those of our allies before I will be able to support any decision to remove North Korea from the list of state sponsors of terrorism.

unfortunately for him, palin was unable to stay on message and praised rice's efforts:

Condoleezza Rice, of course, having worked on this strategy for quite some time, I have faith in her that they’re making this wise decision and North Korea, of course, better live up to its end of the bargain there, in speaking with the other countries whom they’ve been working with, in promising the verification. That end of the bargain has got to be lived up to.



i guess theyre just two mavericks disagreeing the way mavericks would disagree about mavericky things.

Takvah
10-13-2008, 06:36 PM
Both of them said that the verifications are the major sticking point as far as their support is concerned, so what's your point?

whistlelock
10-13-2008, 07:02 PM
That they're maverick's. I think.

Bravo
10-13-2008, 07:08 PM
let's do this again since those ellipses might've muddled the message:

mccain:

“Reports indicate that the administration may soon remove North Korea from the list of state sponsors of terrorism. I have previously said that I would not support the easing of sanctions North Korea unless the United States is able to fully verify the nuclear declaration Pyongyang submitted on June 26. It is not clear that the latest verification arrangement will enable us to do so,” McCain said in a written statement. “As this process moves forward, I expect the administration to explain exactly how this new verification agreement advances American interests and those of our allies before I will be able to support any decision to remove North Korea from the list of state sponsors of terrorism.”

he is clearly not happy about n. korea being removed from the list but palin praises rice and says she has faith in it.

it's a different message.

perhaps she's the more moderate of the two now, but that might just because she understands n. korea better.

after all, on clear days she can see n. korea from her bedroom...

Takvah
10-13-2008, 07:41 PM
Both Palin and McCain made it plain that verification is key to their acceptance of such a move. I don't see the mixed message.

McCain: “As this process moves forward, I expect the administration to explain exactly how this new verification agreement advances American interests and those of our allies before I will be able to support any decision to remove North Korea from the list of state sponsors of terrorism.”

Palin: "...and North Korea, of course, better live up to its end of the bargain there, in speaking with the other countries whom they’ve been working with, in promising the verification. That end of the bargain has got to be lived up to."

Both are very clear that this hinges on verification.

rugcat
10-13-2008, 08:01 PM
Both are very clear that this hinges on verification.It's also very clear that one disapproves of the move and needs to be convinced; the other approves of the move and adds the caveat that it must be monitored -- the same caveat that anyone of any political persuasion would have.

Takvah
10-13-2008, 08:14 PM
McCain has yet to see what constitutes verification and therefor cannot approve of this move yet. Palin says the move is acceptable to her pending the verification. I don't see the major departure here. I don't expect Palin to parrot everything McCain says, just as I don't think Biden has to parrot (and hasn't) everything that Obama says. Why is it alright when Biden disagrees with Obama, but this slight difference between McCain and Palin is tantamount to a major policy disagreement? Both of them hinge their support for this on verification. This is hardly the clean coal debacle.

astonwest
10-14-2008, 03:39 AM
Let's see...so we bitch and moan when Palin touts the McCain line...and then bitch and moan when she disagrees with him.

I think I understand...

Takvah
10-14-2008, 03:46 AM
Let's see...so we bitch and moan when Palin touts the McCain line...and then bitch and moan when she disagrees with him.

I think I understand...

That pretty much sums it up.